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@MH We know the "science & environment" page is really the Green Politics PR page
Out of about 20 items on the page only 2 are not about green issues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science_and_environment
same
https://m.facebook.com/BBCScienceNews/?locale2=en_GB
stewgreen
"A climate denier-in-chief sits in the White House today. But not for long
Elizabeth Warren
The next president must rejoin the Paris Agreement and show the world that the United States is ready to lead on the international stage again"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/05/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump-climate-leadership
"Campaigners try again to stop Norway drilling for oil in Arctic
Activists take government back to court, saying plans violate people’s environmental rights"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/05/campaigners-try-again-stop-norway-drilling-oil-arctic
"Europe must act on intensive farming to save wildlife, scientists say
EU’s agriculture policy needs urgent reform, organisations tell incoming commission president"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/05/europe-must-act-on-intensive-farming-to-save-wildlife-scientists-say
Mark Hodgson
Already brought to our attention by gc:
"Paris climate accords: US notifies UN of intention to withdraw"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50297029
Plus:
"Cuadrilla says it hopes to overturn fracking suspension"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50296671
"Behind the wheel of a hydrogen-powered car"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50212037
"Canada's Green Party leader Elizabeth May steps down"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50296155
[Apparently that's a"science & environment" story].
Mark Hodgson
Fantasizing again about the "establishment" Stewgreen?
AK
The establishment hate Brexit
they will do everything to cheat us out of Brexit
.. and I think they could well go as far as opening the ballot boxes and throwing out the ones they don't like.
They are that desperate.
We see parallels in the Climate debate.
stewgreen
It's possible the price of a Tory / Lib Dem deal is a second referendum on cancelling Article 50 or even just cancelling Article 50.
It's also possible that the price of a Tory / Lib Dem deal is a second referendum on PR and letting Boris have his deal.
With the Lib Dems and Boris you just don't know. That's why integrity matters.
This advert was brought to you by a a Corbyn supporter.
M Courtney
@GC #1 Who's the troll ?
#2 Evidence of what ?
#3 "You continue to post bile" .. You know that is not true, I have not posted "bile" against anyone
@GC I have no wish to see you angry that is why I don't post about TR. (I haven't mentioned him for 10 months)
But OTOH It is not right to give into bullies
.. I notice you do bullying posts that sneer
and other people notice as well.
stewgreen
"It's up to you to provide the evidence to back your claims.
Nov 5, 2019 at 7:30 AM | stewgreen"
Start producing evidence then. Stop being a hypocritical Troll
golf charlie
12:15pm The R4 phone in is about PR junk from an NGO
"A new survey suggests that climate change is leading to rows, as younger people pressure others in their households to do more."
And if to prime our minds that topic came up last night 8:30pm in the Analysis prog
where eco-educator Danielle Lawson, North Carolina State U was researching how to influence conservatives and came up with the findings that to influence the father you "educate" the 14 year old daughter.
The prog started with a trope about the Paris accord
'The more conservatives discussed it, the more they were against it'
... yes cos it is BS
'The more leftists discussed it, the more they were FOR it'
..yes cos the leftist dynamic is that you must CONFORM
We know that good true-believers have looked at the maths of Paris and know it is rubbish at reducing CO2
There's probably more cllimate BS in the prog
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0009z89
stewgreen
"Greta Thunberg marooned as climate conference moves location...across the Atlantic"
https://www.rt.com/news/472608-greta-thunberg-lift-spain/
"Swedish activist Greta Thunberg has once again called for eco-friendly help getting from the US to Spain for a climate conference, but so far she can’t seem to find a ride that meets her unrealistic standards.
“Since Friday afternoon I’ve been traveling east through the beautiful southern states in the USA to get to the east coast and hopefully find a transport to COP25 in Madrid,” she tweeted on Monday, days after she initially asked “if anyone could help me find transport.”
...Sticking by her own rules, Thunberg can’t fly or sail on a carbon-belching cruise liner. So the 16-year-old Swede stuck out a metaphorical thumb on Twitter, begging for a carbon-neutral ride across the Atlantic.
The government of Spain has promised to aid Thunberg in her odyssee, though no concrete plans of how have emerged."