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I notice that the BBC weather presenters now occasionally point out that urban temperatures are higher than rural ones. Is this a tacit admission that they've been misleading us for years..?

Apr 26, 2015 at 11:30 PM | Registered Commenterjamesp

Further to my earlier post about the number of comments on Booker today...The post I was trying to remember was this one:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html

Ironically, it was another piece about temperature fiddling...

It has - at this moment - 31818 comments

Apr 26, 2015 at 9:01 PM | Registered CommenterHarry Passfield

I see that Chris Booker's post in the DT about the GWPF's investigation is heading to 5k+ comments. Is this a repeat of the 25k for a previous blog (memory fails - even though I commented on it!!!)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11561629/Top-scientists-start-to-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html#disqus_thread

Apr 26, 2015 at 8:33 PM | Registered CommenterHarry Passfield

I haven't noticed the Guardian welcoming this GWPF initiative. Perhaps they are busy digging up the dirt on the experts who will conduct the investigation.

Apr 26, 2015 at 7:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterSchrodinger's Cat

Martin A, we can look forward to Smiffy explaining why it's a bad idea.

Apr 26, 2015 at 7:14 PM | Unregistered Commenterosseo

Martin A. An excellent initiative from the GWPF.

Apr 26, 2015 at 6:20 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

Inquiry Launched Into Global Temperature Data Integrity

Date: 25/04/15
Global Warming Policy Foundation

London: 26 April 2015. The London-based think-tank the Global Warming Policy Foundation is today launching a major inquiry into the integrity of the official global surface temperature records.

An international team of eminent climatologists, physicists and statisticians has been assembled under the chairmanship of Professor Terence Kealey, the former vice-chancellor of the University of Buckingham.



Further details of the inquiry, its remit and the team involved can be seen on its website www.tempdatareview.org

Apr 26, 2015 at 4:22 PM | Registered CommenterMartin A

@Harry Passfield
I agree it's a scam, the effects when the train wreck happens is going to be like The Darien Scheme or The South Sea Bubble something that will be burnt into the nations DNA. But that came from a company making profits from the scam and they aren't scamming their customers they're scamming the rest of us. with Government sponsored pyramid selling.

It also says


Feed In Tariffs
What are Feed In Tariffs?

Feed in Tariffs (FITs) were introduced by the U.K. Government in April 2010 encouraging the uptake of renewable, electricity generating technologies.

Homes or businesses that install electricity-generating technology from a renewable, or low carbon source such as solar PV or wind turbines could be eligible for payments from their energy supplier.

You could be paid for the energy you produce, even if you use it yourself, and for any surplus energy you export back into the national grid.

In a nutshell, if you qualify, FITs will be paid to you, the producer of renewable energy for all the electricity produced, whether you use it, or export it back into the national grid for others to use.

So instead of paying for electricity, you are paid for producing electricity. We think it’s pretty neat.

By using Energy Solutions Malvern, you will qualify for Feed in tariffs as we, and the products we use, are certified under the Microgeneration Certification Scheme, and we set it all up for you.

This is what HM Government says


How the scheme works

You’ll get a set amount for each unit (kilowatt hour or kWh) of electricity you generate - a ‘generation tariff’. The rates vary depending on:

the size of your system
what technology you install
when your system was installed

You need to use a certified installer.

You can get payments from your current energy supplier, or you can choose a different one from the list of registered suppliers.

Contact installer companies or an electricity supplier for more information.
The export tariff - selling surplus energy

As well as the generation tariff, you can also sell any extra units you don’t use back to your electricity supplier. This is called an ‘export tariff’.

You’ll get 4.77p per unit of electricity.

You can sell back half of the units of electricity you generate. You’ll need an export meter if your installation is above 30kW.

You’ll also save money on your electricity bills for the energy you do use.
How much you could get

Use the Energy Saving Trust calculators to estimate how much you could earn using the FIT scheme and selling unused energy back.

Use the:

solar energy calculator if you want to install solar panels
or the cashback calculator if you’re considering installing wind turbines, hydroelectricity or micro combined heat and power systems

To me that looks like 4.77p per unit generated whether you use it usefully by not taking power from the grid or just waste it by floodlighting your house in daylight hours..

Apr 26, 2015 at 9:48 AM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

Seen elsewhere (at Climate Etc):

curryja | April 25, 2015 at 8:13 pm |
For surface evaporation from the ocean, you need also to correct the saturation vapor pressure for salinity. 10 years ago, most climate models didn’t do this (no idea if they are fixed at this point).

and

curryja | April 25, 2015 at 8:32 pm |
Last time I looked at any climate model code, I cringed over the approximations in the thermodynamics. Small systematic errors in long integrations could be the cause of a water vapor feedback that is too high. Fixing this stuff would be pretty simple, but they stick with the approximations that are ~okay for weather prediction models.
Note, last time I spoke with Pierrehumbert, he was concerned about similar things, notably approximations made in the moist adiabatic lapse rate.

I'm still shocked, but no longer surprised, to learn what doesn't go into these models that are used to try and rule the world.

Apr 26, 2015 at 8:59 AM | Unregistered Commentermichael hart

SandyS: don’t be too sure – at least we might have a government which does not consider those two (and others) to be essential to scamming the voters running the country.

Apr 25, 2015 at 11:53 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

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