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A few sites I've stumbled across recently....
Tonight on BBC Local TV : the Drax controversy at 8.41am BBC Radio Humberside just played some clips- "strongly against Drax is the RSPB's head of Climate Change'"- "despite our efforts The minister available was not available for comment" ..Davey surely ?- It's not of Your Local TV you'll need to use satellite or internet to see the Yorkshire & Lincolnshire version of BBC Inside Out at 19:30
22/09/2014 This week, Paul Murphy examines claims that Drax power station's conversion from coal to so-called 'green' biomass energy is doing more harm than good to the environment.
Prince Charles has got in on the alarmist act again. There must be a climate summit coming up. See here.
Tackling global warming is the biggest challenge facing the world today, Prince Charles has said
“We are running out of time – how many times have I found myself saying this over recent years?”
"We simply have to win the battle against climate change to secure our future, and the future of our children and grandchildren. I fear there is not a moment to lose."
From Steve Goddard:
Davidson and 60 of his classmates drove 26 hours up from New Orleans to attend the march, and after it’s over, they’ll hop right back on the road and drive 26 hours again in order to make it to class on Tuesday
Now that's dedication to the cause and this years carbon allowance gone.
40,000 was the activists number, the police haven't commented but normally the real numbers are a fraction of what the organisers say. As Alex writes, it was a nice day. Had it been raining the numbers would have been a lot lower. This was a well stocked march with big numbers from WWF, Green Peace, the unions and various other band wagon charities and groups. It was more like a parade with costumes from the Lion King etc. The march would have been bulked up by tourists and shoppers. Add the celbs, the press and other hangers on and you easily get into the thousands. eg I'd bet attendance for Vivienne Westwood staff was compulsory. However, we're talking about a population of 64 million. Doesn't seem like a lot of support if you ask me.
Perhaps whenever there's a march like this we should be having a demonstration of our own. The slogan would be 'if you don't agree with the climate march's agenda, join us in NOT attending.' I think we'd get a lot of support ;-)
Well, they had a lovely day for it, here in London. Worth remembering, perhaps that climate march The Wave had - possibly, depending on who you talk to - upwards of 40,000 people taking part, back in 2009, so it doesn't seem there's a huge deal of difference from that time to this, in the UK anyway.
Also, for a bit of perspective, in 2011 the Guardian posted a comparison of UK demonstrations, with regard to the numbers participating:http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/mar/28/demonstrations-protests-uk-list
At the top comes the Stop the War Coalition march against the Iraq War, in February 2003, with 750,000 to 2 million people taking part.
Even with those numbers, it didn't stop the war.
The marches are a disgrace, a blot upon the societies which host them. Ignorance, superstition, obeisance to authority - it is as if there has been no scientific revolution, no progress beyond primitive culture.
Perhaps these marches are significant, Geoff - but, to my mind, the BBC (surprisingly perhaps) is reporting a far more significant story: LINK. The headline - China's per capita carbon emissions overtake EU's is interesting enough, but the "top emitters" table it contains means that (together with Canada, Australia and other non-listed countries) the heads of government no-shows at Ban Ki-moon's "summit" come from countries responsible for 50% of global emissions. I wonder how many of today's marchers know that?
I hope people are paying attention to these climate marches. The Guardian estimates 40,000 marched in London. Even allowing for exaggeration, that sounds like quite a success. And it can't be written off as Rentacrowd, because the sites supposedly organising the event have had minimum readership input. It really is a spontaneous affair. People turned up because they wanted to.(Last night in our backwater of France, over the moules marinières, a couple of English friends - Labour activists in Caroline Lucas's constituency, - asked if their wasn't a climate march they could take part in. Talk about turkeys demonstrating in favour of Christmas.)On the Guardian website is a photo of a demonstrator with a rather nice poster showing Cameron as a Shakespearian baddy, and the slogan:“WINTER IS COMING CAMERON: ONLY 100% CLEAN ENERGY CAN SAVE US”signed AVAAZ, which is the main NGO running this worldwide event, a mysterious organisation which claims 30 million members and which has been described in the Guardian as: “the globe’s largest and most powerful online activist network”. Their director and co-founder worked for four years in Sierra Leone, Liberia, Sudan, Afghanistan, and their campaign director worked for the State Department. Seehttp://geoffchambers.wordpress.com/2014/09/19/stop-climate-coalition-collapse-chaos/How funny to see all these green hippies marching to the drum of the CIA.
I'd not been aware of these various demonstrations, including the one that E Thompson was promoting in London. I did look at the Sky news video which I thought was remarkably tightly cropped to include just those around Miss Thompson. At one point I thought I could see through the whole crowd, in which case it's unlikely that the 'crowd' numbered more than a few hundred. If I'd run a demo with "10,000" attendees I'd have taken, and be proud to show, a wide shot showing them filling streets. Similarly on the other demo's. There's an aeriel shot of one in Sydney that shows maybe a thousand people?
More stunning insights from Emma T. on the BBC News channel this afternoon:
There's been no legislation that's really made a difference. We have to be carbon-free by 2030, and that's going to... that's going to be hard. Because the vested interests in fossil fuels are enormous. It's a bit like getting someone who's really, really hooked on nicotine to give up cigarettes. I mean, nicotine was a great idea at the time. And fossil fuels were a great idea at the time. They've changed our lives completely. We didn't realise what they were doing. But now we do know, you've got 97% of climatologists - the science is all there. Anyone who tries to deny it now, now looks a little bit bonkers, like that guy who thinks that we're all, you know, lizards.
She even gets that last bit wrong - my understanding is that David Icke (ex Principal Speaker of the UK Greens) merely thinks we're ruled by lizards.
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