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jamesp, It comes from the front page of the Indy.
They are trying for their "Children won't know what snow is" blunder again because it gets then comedy hits and advertising revenue.

They are also whining about solar subsidies being cut... presumably because poor people are expected to serve their betters through paying fiat in Indy land.

Notably, they have abandoned Global Warming as predicted and now talk about Ocean Heat Content. This also abandons any of the feared feedbacks and thus tipping points. Thus their news story - if it were true - is a curiosity and in no way a report of anything dangerous.

And they ignore the fact that the records only go back one year until the point Karl et al reset the temperature record through dodgy adjustments to sea temp records.

Yes, they do ignore the satellites, of course.

Aug 29, 2015 at 8:45 PM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

Greensand, nice site +1

Aug 29, 2015 at 6:58 PM | Registered CommenterLord Beaverbrook

I caught a bit of R4 nause this morning about 2015 being the 'hottest evah' (a bit like the Heathrow record) and that this would put the pause (clenched teeth) to bed for good. Any truth in this, or is it just pre-Paris hype, again?

Aug 29, 2015 at 2:24 PM | Registered Commenterjamesp

@ItDoesntAddUp said \\I think the little phase "up to" is missing from the BBC//
Well The BBC's 'research' is usually what they read in the Guardian
and it says
" the amount of carbon released by the coal – were on average 40% lower than what is recommended by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Researchers reached the figures by analysing coal supply data from 4,200 coal mines. The report uses updated energy consumption data."
.. I wonder if somewhere along the line there's is not a maths error like they confuse Carbon mass with CO2 mass

oh I like this quote
"While the US cut CO2 by 18% by boosting unemployment to record levels
...... the Chinese cut CO2 by 15% by having a study published. Convenient!"

..ah oh since Germany and Poland also burn this low efficiency high water, brown coal ..I guess their CO2 emissions will suddenly be found to be lower than ASSUMED.

Aug 29, 2015 at 5:04 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@Salopian : I did a quick check on Google , it doesn't seem like a big orchestrated campaign. Priddis doesn't seem to be a big FoE activist, or top caver, but rather a guy who has sent similarish letters in the past asking people to submit to Forest of Dean park authority on other non-fracking eco-matters.

Aug 29, 2015 at 4:35 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen


The following is currently being touted around to caving clubs in the Wales and West Midlands areas, regarding fracking (the usual rubbish about chemicals, earthquakes etc). It would appear the the green blob are trying to agitate support from local caving clubs against the recent allocation of new licenses. The originator of this campaign is David Priddis, who is apparently a member of the Dean Natural Alliance Protest Group, and has links to FoE.

Subject: Fracking Threat to FOD Caving? - U R G E N T

Dear All,

I expect many of you will of heard that Exploration is planned within the Forest of Dean for Fracking.

My limited knowledge of this messy and potentially dangerous industry indicates that for each exploration site millions of gallons of water would be pumped into the ground; thousands of gallons of chemicals, including toxic and carcinogenic ones would be used and explosives would be discharged deep underground causing vibrations over big distances (impacts likely within a 10km zone) and potentially triggering tremors and earthquake. (see for instance , for a description of the process. There is a lot of info. on the Internet about this process and its dangers)

FOD Sites are listed on the Government document Appendix 33917 (This is a 74MB document so impossible to attach the whole document.) There are blocks in Grids SO50: SO51; SO60 (2 No.); SO61. pp 102-106 refer. I have managed to abstract these pages from the main document and attach a copy. These and their zones of influence cover, between them, the whole FOD. There are also exploration sites which could impact on Mendip Caves. See:

It is difficult to see how caving could be permitted if such explorations go ahead and the stability of (parts of) underground mines and caves must be questionable?
I am also concerned as to the effects on our industrial and natural heritage; on cave wildlife, especially hibernating bats and on our aquifers, underground water courses and pollution.
I gather that a very tight timetable has been set. There is a consultation, but this is basically only asking "do you agree there should be 1km buffer zones around European protected sites".
The link to the consultation is here:

I am sure many organisations will wish to do so, I leave it up to your different Clubs, etc.. to decide what to do, but I feel the more submissions that are made, the better?

Best wishes
David Priddis

Aug 28, 2015 at 10:13 PM | Registered CommenterSalopian

Lord Beaverbrook

"The BBC will still be using our forecasts...."

and the Met Office will still be using ECMWF forecasts!

I wonder just how many times the UK tax payer forks out for the 'forecasts' that appear on the BBC

Aug 28, 2015 at 4:32 PM | Registered CommenterGreen Sand

This article is a description of Jeremy Corbyn's supporters. It includes his brother, Piers, a 'communist weather forecaster' and 'staunch climate change denier':
Piers Corbyn, his brother and communist weather forecaster
" Piers, the eccentric weather forecaster brother of Corbyn, has offered up his support to his brother. Piers, 68, said: “I am not my brother’s keeper but we are not like the Cain and Abel style Miliband brothers. Fight on!”

While the Labour leadership candidate may be considered to have a colourful record, his older brother can outdo him by a mile. He claims to be able to predict the weather accurately by up to a year in advance. He also claims that earthquakes can be caused by the sun’s activity and he is a staunch climate change denier. He was also a political activist who in 1974 fought for a London council seat as the “Squatters and Tenants” candidate. In his younger years, Piers joined the Communist Party."

Aug 28, 2015 at 4:23 PM | Registered CommenterRobert Christopher


Our 5-day forecast is now as accurate as our 1-day forecast was when I started my career.

Well the 1-day forecast must have been appalling back then. To be fair the MO, the 24 forecast and 48 hour forecasts are now fairly good. But beyond that things are still very hit and miss. The Norwegians use the same Unified model, but despite running it on slower computers, they publish the forecasts up to 9 days ahead. I think this is just for amusement though.


Aug 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM | Registered Commenterlapogus

Lord B, the Slingo piece reminds us that not only should the climate and weather sections of the Met Office be separated, so should the weather data collection and dissemination side be given an independent existence. It could then sell weather observations to the Met Office and to others who could then use it in their forecasting systems.

Aug 28, 2015 at 3:57 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

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