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Discussions should be about the issues, not about we IMAGINE the other commenters think.

What did I just say ?
"I'm not picking on DA, it's the machine I am trying to criticise"

"Stewgreen, you do have this hangup don't you?"
No not at all ..
Then there is a paragraph of allegations about me which are not true at all
"dismiss DA so cavalierly" not true either

General points for good internet discussions
Anyone should be able to express any honestly held opinion without fear of intimidation from anyone else, otherwise people start to self-censor.
I try to keep to discussing the topic/issue , rather than going down the rabbit hole of discussing other commenters personalities.

FYI I have travelled to 113+ countries in 27 years of continuous backpacking..See the world for reality . talk to the people, so the jobs instead of watching it on TV.

May 6, 2016 at 3:55 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Stewgreen, you do have this hangup don't you? Anyone who expresses any support for AGW, no matter how mild, no matter when, is a charlatan, a mountiback, someone to persecute in your indomitable style. So Attleborough is to be trashed, his life boulderised by a cheap shot by you on BH.

This is someone who has brought pleasure and understanding of the wild world to millions, over decades.

Read his biography. You will find he was, until quite recently sceptical, or at least non-supportive of the warmist cause. In fact he came under considerable criticism for not supporting environmentalist messages more in his programmes.

But now he is spreading a more environmental, pro AGW message. Are you so absolutely sure of yourself that you can dismiss DA so cavalierly? After all this is someone who at 90 has meet more people, seen more places, done more things, and seen more sights than probably you and I combined. He shows little sign of senility so what was it that caused him to jump down on the pro side. Doesn't not knowing worry you just a little? It does me, but probably not you.

May 6, 2016 at 3:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

I just read a comment "It is important to question things boldly stated on a TV documentary as fact."
and the guy gave an Attenborough misinformation example about sycamore seed wings

I'm not picking on DA, it's the machine I am tring to criticise. There is even a 2015 book Confessions of a Wildlife Filmmaker I found in this HufPo article

May 6, 2016 at 2:32 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Yes I held back before on saying it makes him Sir David McBoatyFace
..or Sir David SmugFace, Sir David SmugGreenFace.

"man of science" "celeb of Sciency" more like. The name choice again reek more of PR than respect for science.

DA like a lot of 'mostly scientific" people has this climate blindspot.and I am not even sure that his old stuff was that proper science ..his shows have admitted to cheating like the on location Polar Bear footage actually shot in the Dutch zoo, cos TV has fallen into this culture of taking shortcuts and hyper reality...Telegraph lists routine wildlife 'fakery'
Remember those famous gorilla touching shots ? ... Well, actually human should not be putting themselves in proximity to primates go we carry lots of transmitable diseases they may not be resistant to, whilst we have high resistance thru living in cities.

Maybe the name was chosen cos the boat itself will be used to make fake TV reality.

May 6, 2016 at 2:30 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

It does seem that nature lovers like Attenborough have or develop a loathing for human beings.

May 6, 2016 at 1:31 PM | Unregistered Commentermike fowle

GC, so basically it's "Call me Dave" :)

Henceforth it can go by the name of Davey McDaveface

May 6, 2016 at 1:07 PM | Unregistered Commentermichael hart

Alan Kendall 12:29 agree entirely. Part of my school biology education in the late 70s early 80s WAS David Attenborough, watched on VHS/Betamax (?) video recorders with flickery pics.

So the new Ship's name is "RSS David Attenborough 'cos we couldn't call it BoatyMcBoatFace". It is hardly a glowing tribute to David Attenborough.

May 6, 2016 at 12:56 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Alan Kendall, as the human population has risen, so has the number of Mothers-in-Law. Is it just coincidence that the number of wannabe dragon slayers has also risen?

The mass extinction of the dinosaurs may not have been caused by meteorite impact after all. If the wildest claims of global warmists are to be believed, it could have been the planets biggest friendly fire massacre, a combination of halitosis and methane, ignited by spontaneous reptilian combustion.

May 6, 2016 at 12:32 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Re Attenborough. Never have I been more disappointed in a man of science adopting the warmist mantra. He read natural sciences at Cambridge and from a boy was interested in palaeontology.

I suppose having seen much of the world and observed human degradation of the planet, and being advised by "experts" that such things as glacial melting, flooding and the like are caused by AGW, it's perhaps not surprising that he swallowed the message and added a proselytizing element to his programmes.

And many of his programmes have been brilliant, none less so than Life in the Freezer. For those programmes alone I think the naming of the ship after him is well deserved. I suspect the name will be well received by the public.

I don't begrudge Attenborough his reward, even though he adopted his support for the warmist cause late in life.

May 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

stewgreen
When I worked in Beeston, Nottingham there was a strong environmental group in factory. We recycled paper and drink cans and the money went to local good causes, mainly for children, sports clubs and so on. The workforce were very conscientious and not a lot ended up in general waste. The upshot was that as much printer paper was recycled as was purchased. I suspect DECC will be the same and 99.99% of their printed output will be recycled within 12 months.

May 6, 2016 at 12:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

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