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gc

maybe i'm misunderstanding.... but it seems to me that it's the presence and malign influence of the Greens that the FDP are reacting to - refusing to go into a coalition which includes the Greens..

The Greens in Germany have had disproportionate influence on federal policy for far too long and the FDP know that voters are aware of this - and resisting the shameless horse trading that has dogged German politics for ages...

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:15 PM | tomo

Well, yes.

The UK voted for BREXIT with support from the traditional heartland of Labour. People being made redundant due to Green Blob policies (always blamed on the EU by UK Politicians) are not as forgetful as the Consensus of Green Blobbery told each other.

Merkel has been blown out by Green wind, which is ironic, because Energiewende generates so little power.

http://notrickszone.com/2017/03/08/die-welt-article-warns-german-energiewende-risks-becoming-a-disaster-as-costs-explode/#sthash.nGbWvt3p.dpbs
“Energiewende Risks Becoming a Disaster” …As Costs Explode!

‘Die Welt’ Article Warns: German “Energiewende Risks Becoming a Disaster” …As Costs Explode!

By P Gosselin on 8. March 2017

Normally even the German conservative media have been supportive of Germany’s shift from fossil fuels over to green energies, and most leading conservative media outlets accept that climate change is mostly man-made and thus needs to be taken seriously.

Climate science skepticism is scorned in Germany.

So it’s all the more surprising that one of Germany’s leading center-right dailies, Die WeltEnergiewende (transition to green energies).

Citing a 20-page report by McKinsey, Die Welt writes that the Energiewenderisks becoming “an economic disaster” (it in fact already has) and that the opinions on the Energiewende by McKinsey are totally opposite of those held by the German government. This shows two things: the growing chasm between the German government’s view and reality, and 2) the government’s stubborn refusal to acknowledge that their energy policy has become a dismal failure.

Googling Energiewende and Failure, reveals warnings going back years, that were ignored by Germany's politicians. Business leaders and those employed in engineering and industry do not want their jobs exported to China.

If Macron now assumes leadership of the EU, and scraps French nuclear power, lights are going to go out all over Europe, because he is the Green Blob's choice.

The Greens are destroying the EU. Most UK Remainers have not realised that yet. The BBC haven't

Nov 20, 2017 at 1:48 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

An interesting debate going on at WUWT

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/11/19/radiative-heat-transfer-by-co2-or-whats-the-quality-of-your-radiation/

Much of the discussion centres around the old chestnut of wave particle duality :-) enjoy.

Nov 20, 2017 at 1:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

"Imagine Caroline Lucas a government minister?"

Oh please, I'm just eating my lunch....

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterDaveS

AK, I thought it was caused by the Chinese jumping.

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

Apologies for repetitions. BH failed to accept anything from me, then went dark. I thought Mugabe had struck out at all his enemies. Repeated efforts to post went unacknowledged but resulted in embarrassment.

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:07 AM | Pcar

For a politician of whatever colour being able to tax something with public support is a wonderful thing. Who but a very few are going to object on a tax which is marketed as saving the world? How many politicians of whatever colour are aware of the truth about these things? Diesel cars are the classic example, despite this recent scales from eyes event no-one has the gumption either to check out the facts or to question the effectiveness of the proposed tax.

The English language could use a new punctuation mark to indicate a rhetorical question

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterUibhist a Tuath

gc

maybe i'm misunderstanding.... but it seems to me that it's the presence and malign influence of the Greens that the FDP are reacting to - refusing to go into a coalition which includes the Greens..

The Greens in Germany have had disproportionate influence on federal policy for far too long and the FDP know that voters are aware of this - and resisting the shameless horse trading that has dogged German politics for ages will do them no harm at the ballot box as the prospect of fresh elections to break the impasse looks increasingly likely.

Imagine Caroline Lucas a government minister?

Anyway - one has to be grateful that Martin Schultz is not likely at the moment to get his fat arse up to the top table.....

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:15 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Tiny I think the Chinese should all jump up and down synchronously (sin-synchronous elevation shifting) to speed up the Earth's rotation and prevent these devastating earthquakes. Then the climate band wagon will have no leg to stand on.

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Tiny I think the Chinese should all jump up and down synchronously (sin-synchronous elevation shifting) to speed up the Earth's rotation and prevent these devastating earthquakes. Then the climate band wagon will have no leg to stand on.

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

From the BBC:

"The co-leader of the Greens, Simone Peter, said the FDP had been "irresponsible, dubious and calculating".

Her party colleague Katrin Göring-Eckardt said the Greens had been "ready to talk" and found a "much greater understanding" with the CDU and FDP through the talks, especially over migration politics, climate change and agriculture.

Mrs Merkel blamed differing cultures and styles for the collapse but said: "We think we were on a path to finding a solution."

But a spokesman for her party, Stephan Mayer, told the BBC he did not think the FDP ever intended to join the coalition."

It seems that the FDP have done a Farage to German politics.

Nov 20, 2017 at 12:10 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

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