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Nov 15, 2018 at 7:24 PM | M Courtney

From your link:

"Sara Bell, founder and CEO of Tempus Energy, which started the challenge in 2014, said: “This ruling should ultimately force the UK government to design an energy system that reduces bills by incentivising and empowering customers to use electricity in the most cost-effective way – while maximising the use of climate-friendly renewables.”

The company believes that the capacity market favours fossil fuel generation at the expense of alternative ways of securing electricity supplies, such as “demand side reduction”, where companies reduce electricity demand at times of need."

"Demand side reduction" means rationing based on the ability to pay. A timely EU Legal own goal, triggered by Climate Science, to hit UK pockets and productivity,, for MPs of all Parties to think about.

Nov 15, 2018 at 8:14 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Rees-Mogg's letter of no confidence in the leader of the party the Gt. Hon Theresa May.
see below
Rees-Mogg letter – no conficence p i
Rees-Mogg letter – no conficence p 2
Now we shall soon see if May is toppled.

Nov 15, 2018 at 7:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterDouglas

In other Europe News, they just turned the lights out on Britain this winter.

I suppose this is a good day to go on the offensive. Our media is distracted and our Government non-existent.

Nov 15, 2018 at 7:51 PM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

No-one is stupid enough to repeat Cameron's folly. You can't maintain authority while letting go the reins like that.
However, if they were that daft here is how a three-way Referendum could work:

-No Deal (WTO rules)
-Take the Deal.
-Request Re-Entry.

With a Single Transferable Vote and two rounds.
Round 1: All first choices counted and the winner has 50% of the vote. Or we go to round 2.
Round 2: After the first count all the third place votes are re-analysed for their second choice. This is then added to the first choices of the front two for the second round. The winner has 50% of the vote.

That way the Deal is judged as being good enough for Remainers (or not) and the Leave vote is not split.

Nov 15, 2018 at 7:24 PM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

A 3 question referendum would split the Brexit vote and would allow Remain to win with less than 50% of the vote. That might well be what the establishment wants, of course.

A 2-question referendum (in or out) would, I think, be harder to call. TBYJ is correct, IMO, that the last 2+ years has seen an establishment cranking up of Project Fear, and a determined attempt to persuade us that leaving is just too difficult. But we are a nation that doesn't like being told what to think and what to do, and we certainly don't like being told how to vote. I don't know any Brexiteers who have changed their minds since the referendum, but I do know Remainers who are enraged by recent developments and have now decided that they prefer Brexit. The establishment and the EU have shown their true colours very clearly, and not all Remainers have liked what they've been shown.

I might easily be deluding myself, but I suspect Remainers who are convinced another referendum would see a reversal of the last result, could be in for a shock if their hopes were actually tested by another referendum.

Having said that, I don't think there'll be a second referendum. But we do live in interesting times - Goodness only knows how all this is going to play out. I still suspect May might just hang on to her job because there is nobody good enough to replace her in any party, whether Remainer or Brexiteer. They're all hopeless.

Nov 15, 2018 at 7:01 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

TBYJ Nov 15, 2018 at 3:16 PM
I don't think many people on either side have changed their position. Brexiters have become more convinced that the EU is out to get us because of their intransigence. Remainers are still convincex that after 45 years the world as well as the UK are so changed there will be a long hard transition. Neither set of politicians has done anything that shows leadership and vision. I'm put in mind of your crucifixion sketch,although in this case we haven't got any capable of even wiping their nose.

The only thing that will have changed is that 3 years worth of young people will have become eligible to vote. They and their parents will have known no other world than the UK being in the EU as opposed to people of my age who look back on the 1950s and 1960s as being a golden age of growing prosperity and a country with a navy worthy of the name, of course e hears worth of senior citizens will have gone to a better place. But I doubt it will make mu h of a difference.

None of the Brexiter leading lights fill me with confidence as being competent or understanding the needs of industry although they do seem to seem to know how the financial markets work.

A three question referendum would be an interesting proposition, Leave No Deal, Leave with this deal, Remain.

Nov 15, 2018 at 6:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterUibhist a Tuath

"Everyone knows that a 2nd referendum will vote Remain."
Nov 15, 2018 at 3:16 PM | TheBigYinJames

My attitude towards BREXIT has hardened towards a Harder BREXIT.

The EU has never tried to address any of the problems it has created. Now, it seems the BREXITeer case has been made by the EU, and those MPs pretending to support BREXIT.

Conservative MPs chose May as a Caretaker manager, short term contract, tethered goat, sacrificial goat, guinea pig, test dummy, Official Keeper of the Poisoned Chalice etc. Take your pick. MPs are drawing knives.

Nov 15, 2018 at 4:56 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Times2 article about woman setting off to beat solo record of skiing walk to South Pole has £12K Fiennes grant
hope we don't have to pay to rescue her.

Nov 15, 2018 at 4:44 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@ST I punnetted about 20 trays of blueberries today for the market
160 large punnets
They come from Peru... the plastic trays would make perfectly good shop shelves and would have gone to waste, but a local pensioner turned up

Nov 15, 2018 at 4:34 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Nov 15, 2018 at 2:40 PM | M Courtney
Nov 15, 2018 at 2:00 PM | Supertroll

BREXIT will only get harder now. The EU's attempts to sabotage BREXIT and punish the UK, whilst still holding power over the UK are 19th Century European politics:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Paris_(1870%E2%80%9371)
"Prussia's chancellor Otto von Bismarck suggested shelling Paris to ensure the city's quick surrender and render all French efforts to free the city pointless, but the German high command, headed by the king of Prussia, turned down the proposal on the insistence of General von Blumenthal, on the grounds that a bombardment would affect civilians, violate the rules of engagement, and turn the opinion of third parties against the Germans, without speeding up the final victory. It was also contended that a quick French surrender would leave the new French armies undefeated and allow France to renew the war shortly after. The new French armies would have to be annihilated first, and Paris would have to be starved into surrender."

Nov 15, 2018 at 3:39 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

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