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With today's awful news, carrying on as normal seems wrong. But then if we don't carry on as normal, we are letting the terrorists win. So, with a heavy heart, I'm carrying on as normal.

Some objective reporting from the BBC at last about wind turbines:

"UN looks to protect birds from green energy threats"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39954427

"The global boom in renewable energy is posing new threats to birds say experts.
At the UN climate conference in Bonn, researchers said wind turbines and power lines were a particular problem for migratory soaring birds."

And so it goes on. Written by Matt McGrath too!

May 23, 2017 at 8:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

stewgreen at 10.43 pm.

Thanks for the info. The piece was so badly written that at first I wondered if it was someone just having a laugh, rather than making a serious comment. Then I reflected that English is probably their 2nd language, in which case the poor English counts for nothing - I'm sure it's better than anything I could have written in French, for example. So on reflection I thought it probably was intended as a serious comment, which in itself is quite worrying, and is why I responded as I did.

The information you found on Twitter and Facebook seems to suggest the comments were made by a real person who actually believes what they wrote. When I read their Facebook page (and tweets) I did rather despair of them. Without realising it, they made my point for me. I wonder how they found their way here, so long after I set up my thread and posted my comments about Youth Crime Watch of Nigeria? We are being watched! (Which is rather refreshing, as it suggests we worry "them").

May 23, 2017 at 8:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

Take two

https://www.google.ca/webhp?complete=0#complete=0&q=recycling+center+-centre+fire

May 23, 2017 at 3:44 AM | Unregistered Commenterclipe

May 22, 2017 at 11:26 PM | stewgreen

The George Monbiot article you link to, is dated 2nd November 2009.

Perhaps it prompted ClimateGate on 17th November 2009.

By the 23rd November 2009, Monbiot had started to realise what a gullible fool he was.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/23/monbiot-issues-an-unprecedented-apology/

Sadly, George Monbiot seems to have forgotten his own gullibility, along with the Unreliability of Climate Scientists.

May 23, 2017 at 12:40 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Taxpayers and consumers lose again.

http://joannenova.com.au/2017/05/another-glorious-solar-scheme-fails-ignominiously-fast-clouds-rusty-pipes-dumb-decisions/

"Another award winning solar project collapses: it was a $105 million dollar scheme. One company, Areva, lost about $50m and so did the taxpayer. Everything went wrong, management, planning, cheap poor quality steel from China, industrial dispute that left 80% of the pipes rusting on a dock. Three thousand solar reflectors are sitting unused in what was a potato paddock in Dalby. Nobody wants to buy them. They’re obviously worthless. CS Energy is state owned power utility, and it spent $50m but pulled to pin to save wasting another $50m."

It is about time that Governments looked more closely at those recommending these schemes. The UK has a problem with people who do not pay the taxes they should pay. What about those who conspire to defraud genuine taxpayers?

Special prisons could be built with Unreliable power and water supplies, inadequate healthcare, no heating (even in winter), and a menu consisting of "all you can eat, provided you can grow it yourself, without proper soil, fertiliser or pesticide". Those who have grown fat, by exploiting others, can experience harsh reality, without it costing Taxpayers too much more.

May 23, 2017 at 12:08 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Just came across theis old 2009 Monbiot article Monbiot is quite unkind about Clive James ..and old people in general.

May 22, 2017 at 11:26 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@Mark Hodgson I see a COP delegate turned up in your Discussion thread
I thought someone was having a laugh
but no, it seems a genuine name
His Twitter account rarely talks about climate 5 tweets in 6 years. One last year mentions organising delegates for Nairobi

Yet he claims in your discussion
"CC is wreckin havoc in Nigeria, causing serious security challenges, farmers/herdsmen attack, deforestation is there causing communal conflicts and the likes"

His Facebook
also hardly mentions climate either, so it can't be such a worrying problem.

May 22, 2017 at 10:43 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

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