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Already brought to our attention by gc:
"Paris climate accords: US notifies UN of intention to withdraw"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50297029
Plus:
"Cuadrilla says it hopes to overturn fracking suspension"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50296671
"Behind the wheel of a hydrogen-powered car"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50212037
"Canada's Green Party leader Elizabeth May steps down"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50296155
[Apparently that's a"science & environment" story].
Mark Hodgson
Fantasizing again about the "establishment" Stewgreen?
AK
The establishment hate Brexit
they will do everything to cheat us out of Brexit
.. and I think they could well go as far as opening the ballot boxes and throwing out the ones they don't like.
They are that desperate.
We see parallels in the Climate debate.
stewgreen
It's possible the price of a Tory / Lib Dem deal is a second referendum on cancelling Article 50 or even just cancelling Article 50.
It's also possible that the price of a Tory / Lib Dem deal is a second referendum on PR and letting Boris have his deal.
With the Lib Dems and Boris you just don't know. That's why integrity matters.
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M Courtney
@GC #1 Who's the troll ?
#2 Evidence of what ?
#3 "You continue to post bile" .. You know that is not true, I have not posted "bile" against anyone
@GC I have no wish to see you angry that is why I don't post about TR. (I haven't mentioned him for 10 months)
But OTOH It is not right to give into bullies
.. I notice you do bullying posts that sneer
and other people notice as well.
stewgreen
"It's up to you to provide the evidence to back your claims.
Nov 5, 2019 at 7:30 AM | stewgreen"
Start producing evidence then. Stop being a hypocritical Troll
golf charlie
12:15pm The R4 phone in is about PR junk from an NGO
"A new survey suggests that climate change is leading to rows, as younger people pressure others in their households to do more."
And if to prime our minds that topic came up last night 8:30pm in the Analysis prog
where eco-educator Danielle Lawson, North Carolina State U was researching how to influence conservatives and came up with the findings that to influence the father you "educate" the 14 year old daughter.
The prog started with a trope about the Paris accord
'The more conservatives discussed it, the more they were against it'
... yes cos it is BS
'The more leftists discussed it, the more they were FOR it'
..yes cos the leftist dynamic is that you must CONFORM
We know that good true-believers have looked at the maths of Paris and know it is rubbish at reducing CO2
There's probably more cllimate BS in the prog
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0009z89
stewgreen
"@GC That's misrepresentation :
The "Have you stopped beating your wife ?" trope
I can talk to anyone about anything
but there is little in engaging with people when they are in disingenuous debate mode
..It just winds them up more cos they hear the words they imagine instead.
byee
Nov 5, 2019 at 12:36 AM | stewgreen"
You continue to post bile and drivel. That is why most ignore your posts. Carry on supporting Tommy Robinson and copying his supporters if you like, but could you do it elsewhere?
golf charlie
@TinyCO2 quite simply you broke the rules first, so of course I stopped playing.
Nov 4, 2019 at 7:21 PM Stewgreen points out @TinyCO2 isn't following the rules of debate
That one doesn't say "Why wouldn't you believe X is true ?
One provides evidence that X is true
Nov 4, 2019 at 8:24 PM | TinyCO2
says "stewgreen, I don't follow rules if I don't want to. You never answer questions that you don't want to either"
And then asks a load of questions
of the form "Why wouldn't you believe X is true ?
Nov 5, 2019 at 3:00 AM | TinyCO2 says
"stewgreen, I just asked a load of questions and you didn't answer any of them LOL."
Yes of course cos I didn't answer those questions YOU weren't following the rules of debate
It is not up to me to go on a wild goose chase . It's up to you to provide the evidence to back your claims.
stewgreen
"A climate denier-in-chief sits in the White House today. But not for long
Elizabeth Warren
The next president must rejoin the Paris Agreement and show the world that the United States is ready to lead on the international stage again"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/05/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump-climate-leadership
"Campaigners try again to stop Norway drilling for oil in Arctic
Activists take government back to court, saying plans violate people’s environmental rights"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/05/campaigners-try-again-stop-norway-drilling-oil-arctic
"Europe must act on intensive farming to save wildlife, scientists say
EU’s agriculture policy needs urgent reform, organisations tell incoming commission president"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/05/europe-must-act-on-intensive-farming-to-save-wildlife-scientists-say