Unthreaded
Good question to ask of the 'millennials': If you work all your life to come; pay all the taxes due; pay all the carbon offset levies devised by the UN/EU; and live a reduced quality of life because you can't afford to fly/drive, heat your house or pay for basic fuel products, what effect will that have on the temperature of the planet/your country by the time you come to retire? And will it have been worth it?
Harry Passfield
Nobel Scientist who became successful by leaving the UK and Europe to go to a country that broke free from Europe 240 years ago says that Brexit is bad cos "Science is global: it survives on the free movement of people"
I would have thought that his moving to the US years ago, actually shows that there has been pretty free movement of scientist using visas for years Fri 8am radio 5
stewgreen
unscrupulous
Did you hear the anti-frack talking heads most common line on news reports yesterday ?
(concerned voice) "...Fracking is very dangerous it's been banned in New York and in X, Y, Z" scary scary etc.
but you can bet their argument in Z was "...Fracking is very dangerous it's been banned in New York and in X, Y and the UK is looking to ban it" scary scary etc.
all the way to probably saying in New York "...Fracking is very dangerous :X, Y, Z are looking to ban it" scary scary etc.
stewgreen
tomo, Black remains obsessed with the idea that wind failure is due to insufficient battery capacity to store the surplus, and supply the lulls.
When these hi tech batteries catch fire, is it only CO2 that is given off? It occurs to me that when life cycle costs are looked at, it would be cheaper and less damaging, never to have made the battery in the first place.
golf charlie
The things is in the past we knew that the press and a lot of business was unscrupulous
..they seemed to get better while at the same time the liberal establishment like the BBC and NGOs etc
So we expect Richard Black to be like that and he was this morning
His normal line is "Fossil fuels are running out, they'll get more expensive..so we have to move to renewables"
Then in that R5 piece we heard
"The world is awash with cheap gas, there is no point in the UK drilling its own and adding to that when the world needs to reduce CO2"
He went onto make the point "Ah well you see the UK has to keep to its climate commitments (why?) and there'll be risk of methane escaping during drilling"
stewgreen
Richard Black tries out what looks to me like some "lexical pushback" for being labelled "Green Blob" and uses "brown movement" to refer to fossil fuellers...
Gawd ... again... how much is he being paid ?
@stew
re:COP21 + planes
The self regard suffusing Wod-Jah's piece is pretty syrupy - even by his elevated standards.
What a smug PoS - it's not beyond imagining that he'd take a job as Climate Inquisitor General.
tomo
@Tomo My impression is that the aircraft CO2 agreement ..is it's just a bit of paper.
No one does anything until 2020 ..and after then it's still voluntary anyway
stewgreen
BBC invite Richard Black onto Radio 5Live to pontificate on shale gas.
No doubt - he will expound the benefits and get a plug in for his sponsor Jeremy Grantham... tumbleweed....
tomo
BTW, Tomo et al: What did you make of the 'announcement' by Harribin on R4 this morning that, 'COP21 is now law'? News to me....