Unthreaded
On a more serious note, this is considerably more chilling.
Radical Rodent
Radical Rodent 10:15 Brilliant! Presumably Trump would have referred to that video, if Clinton hadn't already realised what a vote loser climate science was.
golf charlie
Entropic Man, I think that is why Americans looking for Science, don't read Scientific American. I expect they are big on the politics supporting climate science, and the climate science supporting politics.
golf charlie
Here is another cracker!
Love the section: “Hasn’t scientific progress always been achieved by sceptics challenging the consensus?”
“That was in the old days.”
Radical Rodent
The Green Blob have just realised that they have run out of other people's money, from the United States. The UK is not very keen having ditched the DECC. The EU is a bit short of cash having lost the UK, and having more mouths to feed.
They never predicted any of it in their financial models either.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/19/cop22-green-groups-wheres-the-money/
The BBC will be organising an appeal called GreenRelief. It could be quite comic. No more fully expensed holidays in exotic locations, for Greens or their supporting main stream media.
golf charlie
Mark Hodgson
You are discussing the old psychological difference between conservatives and liberals.
It is noticeable that most of those posting regularly at BH think like conservatives.
Entropic man
Pcar
Trams. Tramlines were/are evident in Portsmouth. Like Glasgow that SandyS remembers, they would have been ideal for moving goods and workforces around in conjunction with the railways, even if chuffing steam locomotives were not unwelcome due to their relentless chuffing. Portsmouth is also a glorified mudflat, and is therefore flat and level. The adjacent Gosport is similar, and was the munitions manufacture and storage depot for the Royal Navy.
Narrow gauge railways were easy to lay, move and relay, for the army during WW1, but they were not electric.
Were trams sacrificed to make way for double decker buses that would have fouled the power lines, and diesel engined buses were more flexible around routes? The RouteMaster bus remains a brilliant bit of design, but was it named, partially to demonstrate it's superiority over trams and their lines?
golf charlie
You may call me whatever you want, Mr Hodgson… or should I say… Hunk? (hmm… that loses a lot in written form. Never mind; think Mae West).
I’m all for radical, in case you haven’t guessed. Radical is good.
Radical Rodent
@GC et al,
The resurgence of "Trams" in UK is due to Central and Local Gov't desire to construct grandiose "look nice" green things which they can stand beside and point at. That they make a loss and are economically unviable doesn't matter, it may secure a few hundred/thousand votes and a future position of Director of XYZ Green Co. We all pay for this virtue signalling through higher taxes.
"Trams" as they are not Trams, they are light rail systems (Track gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in Standard gauge) running on public highways. Greens moan about 40 Tonne lorries on ciy streets. Now we have 392 Tonne "Trams" on city streets - Edinburgh 7 x 56T per "Tram".
"Tram" Capacity 250 (78 seated, 170 standing, 2 wheelchairs) - that is fewer than 5 double decker buses carry with most seated, not standing.
Accident avoidance stopping distance - not disclosed. However, 40T lorry on 18 or 20 wide rubber tyres on road vs 7x56T carriages on narrow steel on steel wheels doesn't inspire confidence in "Trams".
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Trolly buses - imho they appear more sensible, but probably require (fewer?) subsidies so still bad. Include a 2-5 mile battery backup so they can go off/beyond route, by-pass road-closures, accidents etc. "Trams" are like going back to "green" wood fired steam trains or - yes, this is what the greens want - Windy Miller.