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And then there's this
Least we forget – dire warnings on Global Warming
Kleinefeldmaus
@Brent re BBC Recycled Bottles story
probably a cutNpaste from CPRE and their Dutch partners set to earn $billions from the sale of Recycling-machines
You should have said it has open comments, it's useful
Claim :
This Norway scheme : has led to recycling rates of 97%
- whereas in the UK just over half of plastic bottles are recycled.
Fallacy of comparing apples of oranges
Norway : They are trying to recycle ... that costs money
UK : we are trying to keep litter off the streets ..that works cos most of us put our waste plastic in the correct bin at our home
What happens next is that and the mad-Greens won't let us use Safe-incinerators like the rest of the developed countries use.. recycling and shipping back to the manufacturers is not generally done, cos it's a dumb thing to do, expensive and inefficient
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When I suggested to the CPRE guys that main problem was shipping pop bottles around the country, whose content is 99% water..and that each supermarket should have a Sodastream operation so you bring a bottle get it sterilised and filled there
.. they didn't like it , they were wedded to selling the machines
... So I suspect they get a donation kickback
stewgreen
Plastic ? The ITV show on the ecology of the Zambesi River
The anti-poaching patrol have a problem with fisherman using micronets
The capture 1 mile of cheap plastic nets each week (month ?)
It's shown being burnt by the river
..the commentator made no comment about this ..even though its a highly toxic thing to do
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Now he's talking about the Zamesi dam which will generate the leccy in Zimbabwe
He is having a secret meeting with the 'banned' International Rivers NGO woman who opposes
"22% of the dam capacity will be lost due to climate change" she says
... Hmm African projects get screwed up all the time, I would say that CC is not the main problem
stewgreen
@Geoff You are getting the info from the GWPF daily newsletter
a useful tool
1) Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar Energy : Stop These Things
2) Australian Met Office Accused Of Man-Made Climate Change : Graham Lloyd, The Australian
3) BBC Backtracking On IPPR’s Fake Extreme Weather Claims : Paul Homewood
4) Andrew Montford: Extinction Rebellion? There Is Little Sign Of A Climate Emergency Reaction
5) Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s ‘Green New Deal’ Accidentally Exposes Socialists’ Big Lie : Marc Thiessen
6) The Green New Deal’s Disastrous First Week Kyle Smith, National Review
7) Lord Deben Gave 12 Speeches Benefiting Private ‘Green’ Clients As Lords Sleaze Watchdog Probes £600,000 In Payments David Rose, Mail on Sunday
stewgreen
By the way, do we really need yet another pro-EU/anti-Brexit political grouping in this country? We already have Tories, Labour, Lib Dems, Greens, SNP, Plaid Cymru, all more or less anti-Brexit. Given that around 50% of the population supports Brexit, how come we only have mad-UKIP and a putative new Farage party actively supporting Brexit?
Chuka Ununna is correct when he says "It is time we dumped this country's old-fashioned politics and created an alternative that does justice to who we are today and gives this country a politics fit for the here and now - the 21st Century," but his plan isn't what I have in mind!
I am a disillusioned old-Labour supporter. I would like to be able to vote for a party with leaders of the calibre of Atlee, Bevan, Bevin, Callaghan, Healey, Castle et al. I don't see such a party being in place any time soon.
Mark Hodgson
golf charlie - regarding the 7 resigning Labour MPs:
1. "Chuka Umunna MP, leading supporter of the People’s Vote campaign"
https://www.peoples-vote.uk/umunna_the_brexit_elite_have_flunked_it
2. Luciana Berger - "I joined hundreds of thousands of others, including people from Liverpool, on a national demonstration to demand a People’s Vote"
http://www.lucianaberger.com/peoples-vote/
3. "Chris Leslie MP, leading supporter of the People’s Vote campaign"
https://www.peoples-vote.uk/leslie_we_need_a_people_s_vote_not_a_fantasy_brexit
4. Angela Smith - "Labour MP Angela Smith turned away from party's HQ with People's Vote petition"
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-11/labour-mp-angela-smith-turned-away-from-partys-hq-for-peoples-vote-petition/
5. Mike Gapes - "Mike Gapes asks Steve Barclay to consider a People's Vote"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OammSYikhQk
6. Gavin Shuker - "We should allow people to have a final say on the vote"
https://en-gb.facebook.com/gavinshukermp/videos/1131271533720685/
7. Ann Coffey - "I have signed this letter. People have the right to a vote on the options including that of remaining"
https://twitter.com/anncoffey_mp/status/1069177636822368256
They all seem very keen on letting the people vote twice about Brexit. Funny , then, that none of them have resigned to fight a bye-election and let their electorates have a second vote on whether they should be MPs, especially as they were elected on the Labour Party manifesto and have now rejected the Labour Party.
IMO - double-standards and hypocrites, the lot of them!
Mark Hodgson
stewgreen
Pakistani village head man? try the entire upper classes - with a few exceptions I'd bet that illiteracy overall hasn't sunk below 90 ish per cent outside towns and that funds notionally earmarked for schools and teacher salaries still evaporate. As a rule the upper classes don't pay tax - one of the few ways to better oneself is the armed services who offer nice well paid mercenary services to KSA etcetera. - pandering to Chinese expansionism and cash is now fashionable. I'd bet that much of Afghanistan's poppy crop still finds its way to the outside world through Pakistan, with the connivance of officials and politicians.
In 1947 the minor (and many not so minor) local officials stepped into The Raj's boots and took over the British colonial system and changed very little of its structure. Lahore still has Aitchison College etc. etc. Most of the pols and dignitaries we send there are carefully cocooned from the reality and many seem to think it's all croquet and Pimms.
They still have train robbers.
I spent a couple of years regularly in and out of there - you might not be surprised that I wasn't impressed.
'kinell - the BBC have evaded the head choppers and infidel burners to get the astounding scoop of an interview with the dumb bint.
tomo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/bills-and-utilities/gas-electric/green-taxes-smart-meters-profit-margins-extras-adding-550-energy/
stewgreen
BBC guy 2 years back 'In Pakistan, I said to the village head man, hey your villagers can't read, ... he replied he didn't want that, ...he wanted to keep them as a cheap compliant labour force'
stewgreen
Feb 18, 2019 at 8:29 PM | Mark Hodgson
They will be hoping to attract others from Labour, and financial support from Blairite donors.
What all Remainers are praying for is a Conservative defection to a Centrist Remainer Party. It is disappointing that only one MP is currently serving a prison sentence, as there are many worthy candidates, but it would be interesting if Court verdicts and sentences ultimately decided BREXIT.