Unthreaded
Personally I see XR as a friend. They largely stick to London where most of their support comes from. The more they irritate Londoners, the closer the revolution comes. Ditto the judges.
TinyCO2
"Climate takes centre stage as Green party launches campaign
Party launches election campaign in Bristol, where it hopes to unseat Labour MP"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/06/climate-takes-centre-stage-as-green-party-launches-campaign
"Extinction Rebellion has won in the courts. Now we must win this climate election"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/06/extinction-rebellion-climate-election-xr-protest
"Extinction Rebellion protesters may sue Met as ban ruled unlawful
Section 14 order issued to halt protest across London was not legitimate, high court rules"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/06/police-ban-on-extinction-rebellion-protests-ruled-illegal-by-high-court
"Twitter political ad ban could silence climate activists, warns Warren
US presidential hopeful says fossil fuel firms will be free to promote themselves while critics are barred"
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/06/twitter-political-advertising-ban-could-silence-climate-activists-elizabeth-warren
[When two reports on a single story just aren't enough:]
"Why was the Met's Extinction Rebellion protest ban unlawful?
What is the significance of the ruling and what does it mean for policing future protests?"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/06/why-was-the-mets-extinction-rebellion-protest-ban-unlawful
Mark Hodgson
Front page news:
"Extinction Rebellion: High Court rules London protest ban unlawful"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50316561
"General election 2019: Greens call for £100bn a year for climate action"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50305284
Also:
"General election 2019: Corbyn plans 'green industrial revolution'"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-50318521/general-election-2019-corbyn-plans-green-industrial-revolution
"Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has vowed to tackle "the greatest issues facing our age and our generation - the climate emergency."
As he addressed supporters in Telford, Mr Corbyn promised a "green industrial revolution... at the heart our proposals to transform this country.""
"General election 2019: How would the Greens fund their £1tn pledge?
By Tom Edgington
BBC Reality Check"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50315720
"The IFS calculates the Greens' proposal would take borrowing to £140bn. This would be more than 6% of national income and the highest level since 2012-2013, when borrowing rocketed following the global financial crisis.
The Green Party is in favour of remaining in the European Union, but running a budget deficit of 6% would be double the limit set out in the EU's growth and stability pact."
[That should make clear that it would be ANNUAL borrowing taken to £140Bn, to add to the existing debt. Subject to that rather glaring ambiguity, it's refreshing to see the idiocy and inconsistency in the Green Party's position here being exposed. It would be a breach not of Tory austerity, but of EU austerity requirements].
Mark Hodgson
stewgreen, thanks for the debunk of the Jo Swinson/Transparency International story. It seems you have the right of it, and I'm glad I expressed reservations rather than piling in to say how shocking it is.
I think the really shocking things is how many organisations are funded by the EU to lobby the EU to make changes the EU apparently wants. What a waste of money, and what a marvellous gravy train for those involved, mostly doing non-jobs.
AK, I suspect your response to the BBC's Wales Environment correspondent point was tongue in cheek, so I'll be gentle with you! My point really was that the BBC has loads of environment correspondents already - to see one specifically employed, apparently, to report just on the environment in Wales seems OTT to say the least. The result, no doubt, will be loads of "green" PR and precious little news about the environment in Wales.
Mark Hodgson
Times .. Southern Africa drought
..Flow at Victoria Falls a record low
stewgreen
The Times of London columnist Adam McKibbon actually wrote this sentence which was published by his employer.
"Fossil fuels don’t reduce poverty – they make it worse."
tomo
"Italy becomes first country to make climate change lessons compulsory for all children"
That's PR not news, cos every country will already do CC in geography
and teachers will stuff it into every other class in an attempt to be cool.
"Jean Paul et Marie marchent a Climate demo" etc.
stewgreen
Local library has few papers these days
but the new edition of The XR newspaper The Hourglass is out on the table
see pics on Twitter
stewgreen
That €257m "+ €250m was in the 2018 accounts as an annual payment
It's not the total 4 year payment
@M Courtney Nov 6, 2019 at 10:35 AM
This isn't a scandal.// No it isn't
Bloggers try to say it's a Gotcha, just the same as they shout "funded by big oil"
It's just guilt by association.// don't agree that that is the right word
Look if her husbands income came from say 50 % EU money it would be a Conflict of Interest story
But at this magnitude it is just mudslinging
.. It's not like the EU provides 50% of the orgs money
It can't be more than 20% and could be 6%
stewgreen
tomo,
Your Times of London quote:
I can think of a few ways McKibbon might defend that statement, mostly by choosing a suitable definition for "worse", but there's a bit of leeway in "poverty" too.
For example, you can choose to be glad that more people are alive, or to be worried that "more people" implies a larger number of poor people. It's all about spin.
On a peripherally related point, I watched a doco (strangely compered by Red Dwarf's Chris Barrie) about a large container ship last night. Statistics were flying around but one that stuck in my mind was that the fuel consumption averaged out to 1000 mpg per ton of cargo. So you could spin against this ship by the sheer amount of fuel it burns, or for it by its tremendous fuel efficiency.