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@Mark Hodgson:

I even had to switch off the Now Show yesterday, because I couldn't stand the smug, self-righteous stream of propaganda masquerading as humour a moment longer. I don't have a problem with the attacks on Trump and Brexit so long as there's a bit of balance
You and me both! I really no longer find anything funny in the NOW Show, HIGNFY, or the News Quiz. I expect it will soon take over 'I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue'.

There has always been a place for court jesters who can whisper in the ear of the mighty, but these cretinous 'comedians' are no longer whispering.

Nov 20, 2016 at 12:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterHarry Passfield

@Golf coming up on BBC1 in a few minutes
\\The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, this week called for an end to the politics of “fear and division” //
Well that theatre stunt ..was " “intimidation and division”

Those actors have an opinion (probably not 100% the same) ..and they gave their opinion at the ballot box like everyone else.
They do not have the right to use their platform to harass the the Vice President on his night off.
Cos that is intimidation..which causes fear. "Do what we want and you get a night out in peace"

Nov 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

I read the hatchet job the BBC attempted on Breitbart.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-38005983

Full of adverse quotes and inuendo. (I do not subscribe to Breitbart but I do read it; you often get stories not covered elsewhere and they are up front with their political stance).

Nov 20, 2016 at 10:11 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

I have for several reasons given up defending the BBC and Guardian here, but now I am being told not to believe the whole of the MSM (even Fox News, and Bannon has just attacked Murdock). Much of it is now being labelled "fake news". The question arises, where should I satisfy my quest for acceptable news?

Nov 20, 2016 at 10:04 AM | Unregistered CommenterACK

GolfCharlie
I agree with the points you make. Trams seem to be the current vogue. Do you remember the Trolly buses that used to run in London, they used overhead electric cable and were brilliant, their acceleration was phenomenal.

Nov 20, 2016 at 10:03 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

I have for several reasons given up defending the BBC and Guardian here, but now I am being told not to believe the whole of the MSM (even Fox News, and Bannon has just attacked Murdock). Much of it is now being labelled "fake news". The question arises, where should I satisfy my quest for acceptable news?

Nov 20, 2016 at 10:00 AM | Unregistered CommenterACK

@MH @RR I've seen those videos before not via facebook ..which is useful for the comments

eg 1 \\"I care about facts, I don't care about your feelings." damn FF straight. //
...(Yeh Leftmob continually pull the bullying by taking offence trick)

eg2. "The regressive left don't do facts. They do feelings.
They throw so much senseless BS in the hope that some sticks.
It didn't stick to Trump and they are now terrified of their dying irrelevance.
So what are they doing now? Doubling down and dying twice as fast."
too right

working second link

Nov 20, 2016 at 9:57 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Radical Rodent

Two of your links were to Facebook. Some of us older and old-fashioned types haven't signed up to Facebook, and as a result I couldn't get past the initial picture, before it was rapidly obscured by a message telling me to sign up. There may be a way around it, but if so it's beyond this IT illiterate...

I'm truly saddened by the BBC's behaviour. I even had to switch off the Now Show yesterday, because I couldn't stand the smug, self-righteous stream of propaganda masquerading as humour a moment longer. I don't have a problem with the attacks on Trump and Brexit so long as there's a bit of balance, but there isn't. Imagine a BBC comedy programme poking a finger at the shenanigans at COP22. After all, there's plenty to poke fun at. But it's just not going to happen, is it?

Nov 20, 2016 at 8:54 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

golfCharlie. "I have decided already I won't miss them, and I won't change my mind, whatever evidence turns up, or turns out to be false."
This doesn't sound at all like you, you would normally accuse 97% of climate scientists of behaving in this fashion.

Nov 20, 2016 at 8:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterACK

Radical Rodent, further proof that it is safer to assume that 97% of Climate Science is made up.

As 97% of Climate Scientists are confirmed by their own silence to be incapable of working out the truth, they can not be trusted to identify the 3% that is worth keeping.

The BBC has been very pleased to report the hostile reception given to Mike Pence by a bunch of theatricals, so actors have shot their US licence to thrill too, whilst the BBC still seem hellbent on losing the trust of more than 50% of UK Licence Payers.

Trump hasn't been sworn in yet, but his detractors keep throwing themselves under the wheels of Clinton's retreating bus. Bizarre behaviour, but confirmation that the US DID elect the better person for the job.

Nov 20, 2016 at 2:10 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

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