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Error. Should have been "between Spring and Autumn of last year". (third line)

Jan 4, 2017 at 3:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Paul Matthews

From the body of your link.

The thinktank’s analysis found that high carbon infrastructure, which it defines as fossil fuel power stations, airports and road building, was faring little better. For the first time since 2012, high carbon investment had stopped growing, and will be down by two-thirds by 2020.

The new Conservative government is not just cutting renewables spending, it is cutting all energy infrastructure spending.

Stewgreen

Ask Alan Kendall. Fossil fuels do not come free. You have to find them, harvest them, transport them, store them and burn them. All of that requires expensive infrastructure.

TANSTAAFL

Jan 4, 2017 at 3:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterEntropic man

Paul Matthews. That Guardian/Green Alliance graph needs to be interpreted with considerable care. What is indisputable is the c1billion £ drops in investment for the periods 2017/18 and 2018/19 announced between Spring and April of last year (and a much smaller drop in year 2019/20). The storyline however is the drop in investment by 95% (of what it is now?). However, to interpret this we need to know if the figures quoted are committed investments (they probably are) and the time period between committment, installation and coming on stream. Although the figures for later years are considerably lower than today's, this would be expected. There may be a host of projects in various stages of approval that have not been finally committed to. With time, many of them may gain final approval. Naturally, the further into the future a project is, the less likely it is to have been committed to. One would therefore expect the amount of committment (in terms of money) to decrease dramatically into the future - as it does..

As I have already mentioned the significant figure is the dramatic £2+ billion decrease in committed investment that occurred last year.

Jan 4, 2017 at 3:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

@EM so what EM ?
fossil fuels can still drop to almost $zero cos they often come readily for free out of the ground.

Jan 4, 2017 at 3:12 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Tomo, golf Charlie

The link works for me. Look at the bottom of the page for PDF downloads.

I gave you the original source because I know your bias against any site wich disagrees with you. I have occasionally posted items from BH elsewhere and got the reaction

linking Bishop Hill? eye-roll / head shake - you'll have to do better than that.

It is always disappointing to see information rejected because of an idealogical objection to its source. Both sides of the climate debate have this bad habit.

am not interested in your politics, but I would be interested to know your reaction to the doe data.

Jan 4, 2017 at 3:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterEntropic man

Says a Green lobby group in the Guardian
FFS @PaulM

Jan 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Entropic Man, the first link, I could not access (probably my internet connection), the second link is tarred and smeared by Joe Romm, and is not a reliable source about Unreliable power.

I think the US power generation industry is about to be regenerated, and I am not sure that Unreliables are going to fare too well in 2017.

Jan 4, 2017 at 1:47 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

R4 850am ASA finally say "Greens Lie"
"Here we have an FoE spokesman"
: 'They never said we lied, and even if the claims were unproven ..we think they are true now'

Facepalm... Talking about sand causes cancer claim etc.
"But you have agreed not to make any future such claims"
: 'yeh but yeh but yeh'

Jan 4, 2017 at 1:41 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@EM

just out of curiosity - what proportion of your energy usage comes from "renewables"?

btw - linking Joe Romm ? eye-roll / head shake - you'll have to do better than that.

Jan 4, 2017 at 1:29 PM | Registered Commentertomo

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