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Judith Curry's clever new post on Groupthink reminds me
- 2006 - "You can't comment on our models, you know nothing, cos you don't work within one of the big banking institutions"
what happened next ?
- 1974-present "You can't comment on our models, you know nothing, cos you don't work within one of the big climate studies institutions"
what will happen ?

Nov 5, 2013 at 7:43 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Phillip/stewgreen: that UNEP emissions report makes utterly depressing reading - for warmists that is.

Just a few extracts:

“Limiting climate change will require substantial and sustained reductions of greenhouse gas emissions … this assessment shows that the there is still a significant gap between political ambition and practical reality. In short, additional emission reductions are needed. … The challenge we face is neither a technical nor policy one – it is political: the current pace of action is simply insufficient.”

“It is only possible to confirm that a few parties are on track to meet their pledges and commitments by 2020.”
And, in any case,

“ ... being on track to implement pledges does not equate to being on track to meet the 1.5° C or 2° C temperature targets”
So - the conclusion?
“... applying more stringent accounting practices, implementing more ambitious pledges, and increasing the scope of current pledges, will bring the world halfway to bridging the gap. The remaining gap can be bridged through further national and international action, including international cooperative initiatives.”
But what realistic hope is there of getting China, India etc. (whose emissions are essentially the problem) to go along with all this? I would suggest none.

Nov 5, 2013 at 6:37 PM | Registered CommenterRobin Guenier

Geoff, before my previous post I hadn't read your link to the Grauniad article about why greenies should fly more.

As you say, it is beyond parody.

Nov 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM | Registered Commenterjohanna

@ geoff chambers:

"Who could forget the commenter at a Reith lecture who announced: “I drive an Aston Martin, but I make up for it by keeping bees”?"
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Really? Too funny.

Geoff, what with that and your landmark post on Vivienne Westwood's trip to the Amazon (anyone who has not read it should go to Geoff's and read "Carry on Up the Amazon" asap), I can see a saleable article shaping up here. A publication like The Atlantic - which publishes a lot of P. J. O'Rourke's work, might even pay you for it.

Oh, my sides. "Keeping bees." Hahahahaha ...

Thanks!

Nov 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM | Registered Commenterjohanna

It's now 19 years without the EU accounts being audited. The UK is ripped off for over £800m due to EU mis-spending (aka fraud).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10426971/British-taxpayers-liable-for-800m-of-misspent-EU-funds.html

Nov 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

@Phillip Bratby "BBC climate scare story of the day"
..yeh just toss that new United Nations Environment Programme (Unep) annual emissions report (highlights role of farming) , into the green wheelie bin that's overflowing marked : "DEBUNKED :Predictions & policies & that will fail"
and burn 3 blocks of ghost money to commemorate the 5star expenses consumed in it's making

Nov 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

* Geoff you guys are doing an admirable job of firefighting
but maybe you should do some work with the GWPF or someone to start some fires in people brains :
* BOOM - Geoff shows you : ending green madness will put £3000 a year in the average families pocket
* BOOM - Geoff shows you: How Green dogma has killed 40 million people
* BOOM - Geoff shows you: How the KGB & Chinese intelligence are thanking their Greenpeace chums for destroying western economies
* BOOM - Geoff's Green rip-off the week
* BOOM - Geoff's CELEBRATES success of country where green is not a priority
* BOOM - Geoff's exposes : Green Mafia man of the week
* BOOM - Geoff's CELEBRATES : community of the week that stood up to green bullies
* BOOM - Geoff's CELEBRATES : nature doing well : Penguin, Polar bears, lobsters all thriving
* BOOM - Geoff's exposes : The Green Doormat of the week : the politician who let the fundamentalist 5% walk all over him
* BOOM - Geoff's exposes : Celebrity Green Hypocrite of the Week
etc. etc.
Give the Guardian some fires to try to put out

Nov 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Here's a good one:

Scary sea-levels

" If we continue adding carbon to the atmosphere, we’ll very likely create an ice-free planet, with an average temperature of perhaps 80 degrees Fahrenheit instead of the current 58."

Say that again...very likely?!

If that's the very worse case scenario then the map doesn't even look as scary as I thought it would. Sure there'll be a bit of a change needed (!) but there's still plenty of land to go around and thousands of years to adapt. It's hardly Waterworld is it.

Nov 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM | Registered CommenterSimonW

Another propaganda piece from the beeb. 'UN highlights role of farming in closing emissions gap'
How can a supposed "science correspondent" put his name to such garbage? Except he has his "environment corespondent" hat on for this piece.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24817837

Nov 5, 2013 at 3:38 PM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Gridwatch seems to be behaving a bit strangely today: the total demand curve looks very odd compared to the usual pattern. Some sort of glitch in the data feed, I guess?

Nov 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM | Registered Commentermikeh

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