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golf charlie, from Matt McGrath's puff piece (by the way, I wonder how he got there - he can't possibly have flown, can he? Credit to him for cycling at this time of year):
"Are there concerns that the meeting is taking place in a country so heavily reliant on coal?
Yes - among government negotiators and observers alike. The fact that the conference is taking place in a strong coal region, in a city that is home to the biggest coal company in the EU, is troubling to many.
Poland is highly dependent on coal, getting close to 80% of its electricity from the fossil fuel - and the widespread use of lower quality coal to heat homes, especially in the colder months, leads to smog and respiratory illnesses.
However, the Polish government says that it is sticking with the fuel, and has announced that it is planning to invest next year in the construction of a new coal mine in Silesia.
This bullish approach has drawn condemnation from some.
"We hope that the Polish government will seize this opportunity to embrace and promote a just transition that guarantees that the energy system is transformed while leaving no one behind," said Sébastien Duyck, a senior attorney at the Centre for International Environmental Law.
"Unfortunately, this week's announcement by the [meeting's] Polish presidency that it will include coal companies as sponsors of the COP sends a very worrisome signal before the conference even begins."
Will President Trump and the US feature at all?
Although the US has withdrawn from the Paris agreement, it cannot leave until 2020, so its negotiators have been taking part in meetings and have not obstructed the process. America is expected to participate in COP24.
However, given the President's well known love of coal, it has been reported that the White House will once again organise a side event promoting fossil fuels. A similar event at the last COP provoked outrage from many delegates."
My money's on COP 24 achieving even less than previous COPs - and that's saying something!
Mark Hodgson
stewgreen 1:55pm
yeah... I promoted her .... she's paid less than at least half a dozen pointless berks on Wiltshire Council. Not much composure in Argentina in the clips I've seen - better keep an eye on that blood sugar - she's obviously "quite stressed" - poor dear.
tomo
Golf Charlie
According to Wikipedia
Upon the death, removal, or resignation of the President, the President of the Senate takes over as acting president.[11] Alain Poher is the only person to have served in this temporary position, and has done so twice: the first time in 1969 after Charles de Gaulle's resignation and a second time in 1974 after Georges Pompidou's death. In this situation, the President of the Senate becomes Acting President of the Republic; he or she does not become the new President of the Republic as elected and therefore does not have to resign from his or her position as President of the Senate. In spite of his title as Acting President of the Republic, Poher is regarded in France as a former President and is listed in the presidents' gallery on the official presidential website. This is in contrast to acting presidents from the Third Republic.
Uibhist a Tuath
The BBC's Matt M completely misses the significance in this puff piece.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46398057
golf charlie
Macron is the sales counter person for the Green fiddlers or their sock puppet. It rather looks as if he's realising he's well out of his depth - if the pressure continues I'd wager he won't stay the full term.
Dec 2, 2018 at 1:32 PM | tomo
I have no idea how the French Constitution works. The Eu Green Fiddlers don't have a substitute, if Macron retires "hurt".
If Macron is currently holding urgent talks, who is he actually listening to? Presumably the same experts that backed him, and have now backed him into a corner.
The Gendarmes are ok about tear gas and water cannon aimed at thugs and rebels without a clue. The Gendarmes, Civil Servants and French population are NOT ok about French Officialdom being used to attack peaceful protesters.
Macron needs to make a decision about the people he listens to, before talking himself and France into a deeper hole. Is he scheduled to appear at COP 24?
golf charlie
parish councillor
stewgreen
gc
Macron is the sales counter person for the Green fiddlers or their sock puppet. It rather looks as if he's realising he's well out of his depth - if the pressure continues I'd wager he won't stay the full term.
Over promoted county councillor Mrs May doesn't look very comfortable at the moment either.
tomo
This post:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/02/president-macrons-climate-change-fuel-tax-riots-continue-in-paris/
links to this from July 2017
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/07/04/macron-announces-govern-like-jupiter-roman-king-gods/
Nero fiddled, while he watched Rome burn. If Macron wants to lead France and the EU out of the Green Blob crisis, he needs to stop listening to the Green Blob. But Macron is in debt to the fiddlers.
golf charlie
"As at 17 May 2017, a total of US$10.3 billion has been pledged, which is mostly meant to cover start-up costs"
"Better than nothing, for sure, but after several years of expensive existence, it's not exactly on track - not even remotely."
Dec 2, 2018 at 9:15 AM | Mark Hodgson
But think of all the jet set party goers that have enjoyed US$10.3 billion, without anything left to help the poor.
If poorer Countries want some genuine help to develop their economies, they ask the Chinese. Only Trump is doing something
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-46413196
"US President Donald Trump and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping have agreed to halt new trade tariffs for 90 days to allow for talks, the US says.
At a post-G20 summit meeting in Buenos Aires, Mr Trump agreed not to boost tariffs on $200bn (£157bn) of Chinese goods from 10% to 25% on 1 January.
China will buy a "very substantial" amount of agricultural, industrial and energy products, the US says.
Meanwhile, Beijing says the two sides agreed to open up their markets."
golf charlie
Golf Charlie, From the BBC Report on Cop Out 24 that you linked to:
That's the interpretation they are going with? Or could it be that no-one thinks this is still credible?Later in the same article we read:
So this is more than a technical stage. This is meant to be the actual decision-making time when commitments to doing things are made. Surely that is bigger than Paris which wwas just a commitment to saying they would do something but not what it would be.And finally we read:
Such arrogance.There are many experts from all round the world who have all independently worked out that the scale of the threat posed by rising temperatures is nowhere near as important as the economy and political liberties.
The reason the campaigners are now ignored is that they are wrong. They had their say. It was listened to and it was stupid.