GC

In Syria, the statutory age for sexual consent is 15. That is where Begum was, not in the Netherlands or the UK. IIRC, the Netherlands has a nuanced consent law with those aged 12-16, unlike the UK's absolute version. I did read today that Begum was only 3 months shy of 16 when she left the UK anyway. Not sure just how quickly she got hitched or pregnant.

Mar 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM | TinyCO2

Thanks for that!

Her right to a UK Passport was not in doubt on her 15th Birthday. She renounced it with her declaration of allegiance to IS/Caliphate or whatever, when she arrived in Syria on a stolen UK Passport, and presumably destroyed/surrendered it. Yes she was under 16 etc, but was deemed old enough to accept an arranged marriage to someone with an EU Dutch (?) Passport.

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/netherlands
"The Age of Consent in Netherlands is 16 years old. The age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 15 or younger in Netherlands are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape or the equivalent local law."

She was sufficiently "radicalised" to leave the UK. Since then, there is nothing to indicate that her radicalisation has been reduced or altered. She "pleaded her belly" as a "get out of jail/hellhole card".

Is she now a war refugee? The Red Crescent is linked to the Red Cross:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Arab_Red_Crescent
"The organisation is working in the Syrian Civil War and is engaged in evacuation of people from war torn region to other places. It is shifting people and militants who surrender and relocates to other place. When Darayya surrendered to government forces, the militants were relocated by the red crescent."

Islamic Militants/Pscychonutterbuzzturds have already murdered UK Charity volunteers, so if medical aid is not getting through to help, who does Diane Abbott blame?

Incidentally, this is exactly how pc came about. People (esp BBC and Labour) started pouncing on individual words rather than the meaning of the full sentence (eg Amber Rudd calling Diane Abbott 'coloured').

Were they extreme? To a certain extent, yes. Only the future will tell us if that extreme opinion was the right one. Being extreme isn't essentially good or bad - although it is often used that way. The problem is not that those MPs might be extreme but that terrorists are generously classed as extreme and not psychotic, rabid, evil... you get the picture. Organisations like the BBC downplay the real bad people and then casually smear ordinary, law abiding but opinionated people with the same monika. But I'm not the BBC and you knew what I meant. So deal with the core issues.

Sorry gc, I meant sg.

Diane Abbott could have rescued the woman herself. In all probability, having the woman's citizenship revoked had no effect because she wasn't in a position to use it. The Home office said that they don't routinely put staff at risk to rescue people who have got themselves into danger regardless of their innocence. Even an evacuation for the child would have taken longer than three weeks, especially as she might not have been willing to part with him.

Tiny CO2 & stewgreen,

However, for a new low in stupidity, and ignoring the stampeding herds of elephants in the room:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47506145

"Shadow home secretary Diane Abbott also criticised the actions of the Home Office."

She tweeted: "It is against international law to make someone stateless, and now an innocent child has died as a result of a British woman being stripped of her citizenship. This is callous and inhumane."

"gc, I agree
Mar 11, 2019 at 1:38 PM | TinyCO2"

I haven't said anything! But I agree with the rest of your post .......