M Courtney

http://www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk/induced/recent_uk_events.html

Better - use this first. Doing so promotes useful discussion and would have avoided my initial pointed questioning.

BTW, in that list, there are only two (2) events that are outliers in intensity - 2.9 and 2.1. Neither are of sufficient strength to cause concern. As a geo, my first reaction to outliers, even this small, is to examine the reliability of the recordings (not suggesting these are wrong, just routine methodology), then look at detailed local mapping for located fault zones that may be triggered with small increases in strata lubricity from fracking water. Pure geological curiosity, given the low intensities of these 2 events.

True goal of people like Hannon is to jack up the rent.
Lower ( imported )food prices makes this possible without too much unrest.
The Brazil thingy at the moment is a elaborate stage play designed to convey emotion and distress for the tropical forests before they decide to import more beef
They must be seen to do something....before they do the same as they have always done.
That is Repeal more corn laws , cause a further domestic income crisis disguised by lower prices and absorb the surplus themselves .

@M Courtney

> "When things don't go to plan you should pause and work out why"

Yet again, the underlying *assumption* that frack wells caused this for some reason.

Examine the geoscience data before assumptions.

The real reason the Democrats are dodging open climate debates is because they are for the most part scientifically illiterate and fear this being exposed by the shrill silliness of the AOC faction; such a slanging fest can only lose votes, with the recalcitrant trying to shout down the ignorant.

Just to add I disagree on his definition of "wealth" .
That is high prices expressed as GDP growth.
That domestic inflation makes local production / consumption impossible over time.

Had to laugh at Dan Hannon on Any Questions last week.
He is a typically darkly absurd British free trader ( in reality forced trade )
He thinks when countries get richer they cut down less trees .....
In reality they may import food from other banking jurisdictions causing domestic tree growth only.
Of course if we all equally imported food from one another no tree regrowth would be seen in any jurisdiction !
Go to 6 minutes if you want a laugh.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007rv8

@ M Courtney

> "The issue is too charged for any reasonable discussion."

Because shrill green finger pointing is preferable for propaganda. As if you don't know this.

I repeat, try actual geoscience. There are nets of seismometers designed specifically to pinpoint epicentres. Use the data. So far, you've refused.