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G.C. I recall just missing the Loma Prieta (or World Series) earthquake that affected San Francisco in 1989. In the following spring I was shown around the still visible damage in the Marina District where ground liquifaction caused buildings to sink into their foundations for a metre of more and huge slabs of overhead motorway to come away from their supporting pillars. I used to work in the vicinity for three years. Amazingly the epicentre was a hundred kilometres distant and over most of this distance there was little damage. Only where the ground was man-made fill was there damage. So even if I had been in San Francisco I would have been safe. I would have been in Embarcadero One on safe ground, the right side of Market Street. At other earlier times I felt Embarcadero One sway in response to other earthquakes.

Aug 27, 2019 at 3:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

Ross odd, I distinctly saw Nigel speaking to his audience (and threaten our dear Bojo) on the BBC 1 one o'clock news today.

Aug 27, 2019 at 2:54 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

IMHO a good interview with Nigel Farage on Good Morning Britian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcaSpXb-Rx4

Aug 27, 2019 at 2:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

" ... large battery backup installation being built in the Yorkshire - Lincolnshire area.
Aug 27, 2019 at 1:59 PM | Still In The Dark"

Unless there are more being built elsewhere, that is not going to keep London Underground trains going around the Circle Line when Windmills fail to go around at all.

Aug 27, 2019 at 2:07 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

A rousing and enthusiastic Brexit Party Conference with some good contributions. In the press questions the Guardian and the Times were represented (Quentin Letts) but the TV media were conspicuously absent. Considering the pivotal part that the Brexit Party will have in our departure from the EU. This looks like censorship by omission.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvFg9yUVuLg

Aug 27, 2019 at 2:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

M Courtney 12:09 PM

"The issue is too charged for any reasonable discussion"

The real issue is imho the dancing around the fairly arbitrary number and logarithmic scale placed on the event - seismic disturbances usually aren't a uniform expanding sphere of ground motion. Context is important - as I said earlier was it a single crack, or a prolonged rumble and what was the actual geological context?

Whataboutery is valid too since other activities generate seismic waves which aren't monitored and recorded and which occasionally exceed the fracking "limit".

I'd like to know more but the debate such as it is is dominated by the deliberately low and impractical limit placed on shale gas extraction and the associated herds of activists and their PR-PA systems in the media.

Aug 27, 2019 at 2:03 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Aug 27, 2019 at 1:06 PM | AK

Thank you, I was in the Ionian for this sequence in April/May 2006
https://academic.oup.com/gji/article/190/2/1025/642854

All buildings are modern and supposedly built to be earthquake resistant. No damage occurred. How the earthquakes were felt by individuals depended on which floor of which building. I was at ground level for each one, not on a boat or marina pontoon. Apart from trees, nothing visibly moved.

There was genuine fear amongst the Greeks that the "next big one" was about to happen, but it didn't. The last "very big one" was 1953 and featured in the Book "Captain Correlli's Mandolin"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Ionian_earthquake
"The event measured 6.8 on the moment magnitude scale, raised the whole island of Kefalonia by 60 cm (24 in), and caused widespread damage throughout the islands of Kefalonia and Zakynthos.[2] The maximum felt intensity of shaking was X (extreme) on the Mercalli intensity scale. Between 445 and 800 people were killed."

Aug 27, 2019 at 1:59 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

I was talking to a friend of a friend this morning, as these things do we got onto the subject of work, he reckons there's a large battery backup installation being built in the Yorkshire - Lincolnshire area. He didn't have much more information than that and that it was a multimillion pound project.

Aug 27, 2019 at 1:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterStill In The Dark

Aug 27, 2019 at 12:09 PM | M Courtney
I have never been that bothered about US Politics before, but if St Greta triggers a series of tremors and a landslide in Democrat support for Greens and Climate Science, it will be a job well done.

I can't see Germany going bust for Green ideology, but EU Greens are relying on Germany and Macron.

With notable exceptions on this Blog, it is about time that Socialists realised how selfish and anti-social Climate Scientists and their phoney belief systems are.

I do genuinely care about the environment, countryside, gardening, farming, rivers, seas, oceans, flora, fauna etc and do have some practical experience. I have no issues with people CHOOSING to live without the benefits of technology, but object to those imposing it on others.

Aug 27, 2019 at 1:10 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

GolfCharlie. Personally I would not distinguish between tremor and quake. Somewhere in Wiki is reported the case of two strong earthquakes in Chile in the ML 6.9-7.3 range. One was hardly noticed and caused minimal damage (a tremor?), the other, in the same area, caused major damage and a high death toll (a quake).
I would place a boundary between strong and weak quakes at around ML 4. At this magnitude even the sleeping are awoken but structural damage is minimal.

Aug 27, 2019 at 1:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

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