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May 2, 2014 Climate: Curry Josh 
Apparently one single post by Judith Curry needs thirty alarmist posts to rebut it, so says Victor Venema. Yes, her arguments are that good and alarmism is that weak!
Reader Comments (23)
Nice one, Josh, especially the 'natural ingredients'.
'Venema' is a tough moniker, though. It sounds to me like a particularly hostile medical procedure...
Easily somewhere in your Top 5, Josh.
But Josh, she's American - surely it should be "Skeptic"?
When I enter it into the world leading authority website on the subject (not) I find it is pronounced "skeptik".
However, this is really difficult. The supposed etymology is 'from Latin scepticus "the sect of the Skeptics," from Greek skeptikos'.
If as suggested it comes from Latin, that would suggest the latin "Sc" would be correct, however it appears to come in with the meaning "member of an ancient Greek school that doubted the possibility of real knowledge," in which case if referring to the Greek word the "sk" would be correct.
(Indeed, come to think of it, this c or k argument might have been the reason I set up ukipper.co.uk as the original conversation was one with my children about the redundancy of "c" in the English language.)
However, when we talk about "skeptic science" v. "sceptic science", we add a new controversy as the SC in science and skeptic are used very differently.
So, thinking about it the real oddity is "science" which is pronounced "sie-uns".
"Sceptic science" - three "c"s one hard, one silent and one pronounced as an S.
If looks could kill, they probably will,
in games without frontiers,
War without tears,
It's a knockout.....
Just turned to May in my Josh calendar, and lo and behold it's Nige! How prescient is that.
Historically this has been true. Look at how many "concerned scientists" felt required to join a "union" to review Bjorn Lomborg. One notable Peter Gleick, who probably counts as two, given Gleick's sock-puppet.
Think of the spray can as Curry's patented stain remover. Removes the worst stains from the reputation of climate science. You know like the CG1 team's stains and the associated IPCC's stains . . . heh heh heh . . .
John
I do sense the use of "critical theory"?
Meaning that for some the basis for debate is political or ideological?
Mike, four 'c's.
But...she's a disinformer...Mikey tells me so.
30:1 sounds like 97% to me.
Judith Curry, Donna Laframboise, Jo Nova, that's not equality - that's unfair!
Realists and the scepticism of great minds who think alike, heterodoxy, it's a conspiracy................. ;-)
o/t but I cannot help but lace in Courtillot talks here and there: They are a refreshing rebuttal of any Leftist Scumbag's droppings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNYhp-B39I0
Judith Curry is very brave to have taken on the corrupt IPCC Climate Alchemy Establishment. It also appears that she developed that courage by reading comments to her blog, the thoughts of the many highly-qualified scientists and engineers Worldwide who have shown that the 'consensus' is based on incorrect physics.
We have lived through our era's version of the 18th Century 'Phlogiston' debate which was also pushed by someone whose religious fanaticism over-ruled scientific objectivity. Hence, despite empirical data showing there is probably no significant CO2-AGW, 'the team' is inventing yet more fake physics to keep Obama's billions coming their way.
The present fight is whether the forces of oppression will start to imprison dissenters before the former are voted out of power. This is why scientific bodies like the RS are being stuffed with political pawns like Stern.
Great cartoon.
Turnedoutnice
You are right about Judith Curry's bravery and that the orthodoxy is driven by corruption and lies, not ideology.
ptw
Anyone who sees this subject from a political / ideological stance is an irrelevance. That's why I reject Lawson and every corporate tool journalist from the Guardian.
esmiff is moonbat.
esmiff - please clarify what stance(s) you do consider relevant ... ?
Athelstan
Thanks for allowing me to promote my Monbiot website. I'm not Moonbat.
http://alturl.com/py3pf
Maybe I'm Michael Mann.
Martin A. Any stance that is based on the facts, not on political ideology or the need to look cool in the case of Guardian readers. For example, the Pielke family, Curry, Richard Tol, Jonathan Jones et al. Also left leaning deniers like me, David F. Noble and James Heartfield.
The chattering class are on about delivering the message.
Good scientists deliver the goods.
Only the latter matters.
Great cartoon and many thanks for the link to an excellent article by Judith Curry.
Mr Montford, could you maybe snip the hilarious pun on my name in the first comment? Do we really want the climate "debate" to sink to such a level?
In case anyone is interested: I could not care less who is blogging at the CCNF and only pointed out that it would be hard to get the same ratio as in the scientific literature. A considerable part of the dissenters is blogging, while only a minute fraction of the scientists is blogging or even reads blogs. I had already clearly stated so in the comments at Climate Etc. well before the cartoon was published.