http://climateprediction.net/content/millennium-experiment-famous

Remember the BBC experiment using distributed computing to operate a climate model? The team that started it are still going with many experiments ongoing.

rg : Historical climate records tell various stories — Let's test them all.

We'd like to understand the climate changes since 800 AD (i.e., for just over a millennium). In addition to the post-industrial era, this period includes so-called Medieval Warm Period (~900-1300 AD) and Little Ice Age (~1300-1900AD) (see e.g. Medieval Warm Period on wikipedia). The anomalously warm and cold periods are probably caused by the variation of volcanic & solar activities, land use changes and perhaps the change of oceanic circulation pattern, but the contribution of each component is not well understood...

The piece by Judith Curry is certainly gaining attention, (though of course the BBC environment and science correspondents are desparately ignoring it), but just as significant I think is the discussion over on the Air Vent (entitled 'Momentary lapse of Reason, and later posts). This was started by a physics paper being put up for open review, with the result that the ability of the Global Climate models to deal with real life is seriously challenged. This leads to a very very interesting (and extremely courteous) detailed discussion which in itself is fascinating, but more important is that both sides of the debate are talking part including 'Very Well Known People' such as 'Gavin'. It's also spawned an equally deep discussion over on Lucia's Blackboard which is attempting to quantify the possible effects described in the paper.

All makes for extremely interesting reading, but does it also mean the final death of 'the science is settled' and mean that open questioning and elucidation is once more on the cards?

Can't for the life of me imagine why the illustrious Science and Environment correspondents of the worlds premier broadcasting company fail to note these extraordinary (earth shattering?) developments.

Fate of the World anyone?

http://www.fateoftheworld.net/videos.html

Not sure if this is of interest to Bish, Environmental Audit select committee on the Green Investment Bank (GIB) also meets tomorrow. Have linked to the publication by the Green Investment Bank committee on the GIB. And the link to what Mervyn King had to say today on debt backed banking. I leave the reading of those to you and see if you have any thoughts.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/environmental-audit-committee/news/oral-evidence-session---green-investment-bank/

http://www.climatechangecapital.com/thinktank/ccc-thinktank/publications.aspx

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8086279/Banks-should-be-broken-up-Bank-of-England-Governor-Mervyn-King-warns.html

Bish, have you seen Dr Curry's latest?

Heresy and the creation of monsters
Posted on October 25, 2010 by curryja| 75 Comments

by Judith Curry

http://judithcurry.com/2010/10/25/heresy-and-the-creation-of-monsters/

No punches being pulled

12,000 years ago, now thats what you call climate change! If only we could transport the 'team' back to then, that would give them something to shout about.

http://notrickszone.com/2010/10/25/rahmstorfschellnhuber-confirm-no-anthropogenic-climate-change/

Play the current Key Stage 4 Geography: funded by DEFRA game yourself.
It is dated as 2007, so three years old I wonder how many key stage 4 have played this....

Operation Climate Control.
http://www.operationclimatecontrol.co.uk/new

Some one got their MSc writing about the efect of this companies PREVIOUS climate change game..

"The game has been developed by Red Redemption Ltd., a leading environmental games company, who have previously developed Climate Challenge a similar game aimed at young professionals for BBC Science and Nature."

Lets repeat that again..

BBC SCIENCE AND NATURE

The MSc Thesis:
MSc Dissertation: Environmental Change and Management
Environmental Change Institute, University of Oxford
http://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/members/cameron.hepburn/Rowlands(2006).pdf

"Communication of Climate Change
How is the climate change message put across to the general public?
Climate change is a global problem that should be addressed at every level of society, from the
household to business to government (Defra, 2006a). This means that explaining the issues
surrounding climate change to the general public is of vital importance, if everyone is to take
measures to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

Governments have a role to play in this, and have set up public awareness campaigns, such as the UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) campaign Climate Challenge, which has the aim to “to educate, excite and inspire” people about climate change (Climate Challenge, 2006).

Indeed, a future version of the Climate Challenge game aimed at school children at key stages 3 and 4 will be funded by the Climate Challenge fund, associated with the campaign."

See the appendix (pg 75) on results of a survey from the game....

4. Of those gases, which do you think, overall, contributes the most towards climate
change?

Argon 0%
Nitrous Oxide 0%
Carbon Dioxide 77%
Oxygen 1%
Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) 4%
Ozone 4%
Helium 0% Perfluoromethane 0%
Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) 1%
Water vapour 5%
Methane 6%
Don't know 2%
Nitrogen 0%

I have just 'played' an online uk geography schools key stage 4 'game' entitled

Operation Climate Control.

Funded by DEFRA...

In my mind it is WORSE than 10:10 no pressure..
polite words are currently failing me.....

I will put something detailed together later...

a snippet...

You get hit in the face with a cartoon sea mine 'cartoon' (which explodes in a cartoon manner' everytime you get a survey style question 'wrong'

a question:

Q: PLANTS CAN'T ABSORB ENOUGH Carbon Dioxide

"Plants absorb some of the CO2 in the atmosphere, but as we put more into the atmosphere, and chop down more forests, they can't absorb as much, which makes climate change worse"

Choose How To Deal With This Climate Change Impact

A1: Don't plant more trees, focus on reducing C02 emissions

A2: Plants more trees to absorb carbon

A3: Ecorage the timber industry by builing more buildings from wood

Their correct answer is A1, reduce emmisions, anything else gets an exploding(cartoon) sea mine (spikey world war2 sort) in the face.

A cute cliched 'cartoon youth' character called me a selfis meany at one point.
The game is class focussed, ie registered and the whole class signs in, so everyone can see the 'scores'

no pressure

New open letter from Martin Rees (for some reason found on a Scandinavian news site).

It's worse than we thought (as we thought).

http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/10/23/an-open-letter-on-climate-change/

Whoops I messed up, the videos should be here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ThinkAsTheyDoOrElse?feature=mhum