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Discussion > Grenfell Tower - Deadly Fires: Mismanagement, or just no managers present

https://www.building.co.uk/news/grenfell-inquiry-what-weve-learned-from-rydon-so-far/5107164.article

Jul 25, 2020 at 2:02 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/grenfell-site-manager-was-a-chancer-according-to-internal-rydon-email/10047751.article

"A site manager on the Grenfell Tower was described in an internal Rydon email as a ‘a chancer who wants to do as little as possible’, the inquiry into the 2017 disaster has heard

Daniel Osgood was responsible for overseeing the installation of overcladding and window insulation at the Grenfell Tower for three months in 2015, before he left the project following criticism of his work.

Osgood told the inquiry he had been chosen to work on the Grenfell refurbishment by Rydon because of his previous experience working for a cladding installer, but was grilled on accusations of incompetence made against him by contracts manager Simon Lawrence – one of the two Rydon managers he reported into.

Lawrence wrote to Stephen Blake, Rydon’s refurbishment director, on the 21 July 2015 saying: ‘My concerns about [Osgood] relate to his lack of commitment to be responsible for his works and manage a situation proactively and adequately.

‘I get the impression that Danny is willing to react but can’t be bothered to check [if things are] correct in the first place’. "

Aug 4, 2020 at 5:00 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

oo-oops.......

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-new-cladding-scandal-that-could-bankrupt-a-generation

Aug 28, 2020 at 2:29 PM | Registered Commentertomo

oo-oops....... Aug 28, 2020 at 2:29 PM tomo

The multiple oops won't end with the concluding report of the Inquiry. Nor will they end with any jail sentences that could possibly follow. The article indicates the size of the problem, and it is doubtful that insurance companies will pick up the bill for defective workmanship and materials being incorporated into existing buildings, because they were "approved" at the time.

From the article, two significant paras:

1."Three years ago, the tragedy at Grenfell showed what can happen when you get this wrong: insulation added for environmental reasons turned out to be highly flammable. The residents were living in a death trap, and when a fridge caught fire, the tower block became an inferno."
The insulated cladding was a necessary part of the refurbishment, to provide lower maintenance and upgrade to current Building Regulations. It is not yet clear to me whether additional thickness of insulation was added for " environmental reasons", and whether this did or could have exacerbated the spread of flame.

2. "There was nothing to protect me against what turned out to be inept government regulations, which allowed flammable cladding to be fitted."
"Government Ineptitude" over the enforcement of Building Regulations has been increasing for over 25 years with privatisation.
The Certification of materials that comply with UK Building Regulations has become contentiously confused with Certification provided by EU.

Aug 28, 2020 at 5:52 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

https://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/harley-bosss-son-became-grenfell-project-manager-at-25/5108036.article

"Inquiry hears refurb was Ben Bailey’s first project manager role and he did not think understanding Building Regulations was part of his job

The Grenfell Tower Inquiry has heard that the son of cladding specialist Harley Facades was just 25 when he took on the role of project manager for the company’s work on the west London block, which caught fire in 2017 with the loss of 72 lives."

Sep 22, 2020 at 1:23 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

https://www.building.co.uk/news/mande-consultant-suggested-combustible-insulation-for-grenfell-tower-refurb/5108112.article

"Safe mineral wool product ruled out because ‘aspirational’ efficiency target would not have been hit, inquiry hears

A mechanical and electrical systems consultant on the Grenfell Tower refurbishment project recommended the use of combustible insulation on the outside of the block as a way to meet an “aspirational” thermal efficiency target, the probe into 2017’s disaster has heard.

Thursday’s session of the Grenfell Tower Inquiry took evidence from Andrew McQuatt of building services engineering consultancy Max Fordham, who said he had proposed Celotex FR5000 insulation for the scheme in an August 2012 email to architect Studio E.

McQuatt said the recommendation followed a search for insulation thin enough to meet an “aspirational” thermal efficiency target for the refurbishment that fitted between the 1970s tower’s original exterior and the rainscreen cladding to be added as part of the scheme."

Sep 25, 2020 at 12:20 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

https://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/cladding-subcontractor-agrees-grenfell-work-was-shocking-and-unacceptable/5108176.article

Cladding subcontractor agrees Grenfell work was ‘shocking’ and ‘unacceptable’
By Jim Dunton

Osborne Berry partner cannot explain how cavity barriers were placed back-to-front and wrong way around

One of the subcontractors responsible for fitting the external cladding system to Grenfell Tower has agreed that some of the fire protection measures that formed part of the package were fitted in a way that was “shocking” and “unacceptable”.

Mark Osborne, of Osborne Berry, made his observations to the Grenfell Tower Inquiry, probing the causes of 2017’s fire in which 72 lives were lost, on Monday.

He was shown images of cavity barriers – sometimes referred to as fire-breaks – installed on the tower in positions that were back-to-front and in the wrong orientation, failings that stopped them serving their intended purpose.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/sep/30/grenfell-surveyor-had-to-handle-130-projects-at-once-inquiry-hears

Oct 1, 2020 at 6:16 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

So we can blame Climate Change hysteria for this disaster then ?

Oct 2, 2020 at 8:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterBLACK PEARL
Dec 16, 2020 at 10:26 AM | Registered Commentertomo
Mar 23, 2021 at 12:59 PM | Registered Commentertomo