Of course the number of nth generation Scots in England makes an interesting debate. If I ever had a weird acident I'd have to send one leg to be burried in Ireland, one leg to Devon and the gobby opinionated end to Scotland.

Sandy S. Some fairly negative posts from you recently. Is there anything at all you find positive about the Union? Or are we Saxons beyond redemption? It's always possible to turn to history and rake up old hurts, but today?

Hector Pascal
I'm sure you're right. Just as they voted to send all EU citizens home along with anyone else without three generations of births in the UK.

BTW I don't think it was me that used Scotch, possibly Pcar, which I think he was using in its pejorative and insulting form judging by the rest of his posting. The word immigrant is beginning have similar usage.

As I said to stewgreen, Ross Lea asked the question Pcar answered it in a similar, but more extreme, vain to yourself I'm merely suggesting that you stand in the other person's shoes. As Supertroll has found out and I already knew it's just as difficult for people here, despite their high opinions of themselves, to do that.

stewgreen
I think you'll find that as a Result of the efforts of Henry VII the Stewarts were the legitimate heirs to the throne of England after all other Tudor (Welsh) heirs had died. As such in the history I learnt Elizabeth died on 24th March, and James was proclaimed king on the same day. James was still in Scotland at this time.

Do you actually think that the absentee and summer visiting land owners were universally popular in Scotland?

Splitting hairs on oil I think. Just as you felt that the EU robbed England blind it doesn't really matter that most of the oil and gas were in the North Sea off the North East Coast and Northern Islands of Scotland and not the Highlands and Islands (Western in this context), it was the "fact" that the revenues were used to subsidise Mrs Thatchers policies of controlling unions by high unemployment and little or no benefit came to Scotland as happened in Norway a country of similar population and oil wealth. Not necessarily my view, but someone (Ross Lea) asked why.

Project Fear Mk1a dealt with PR.

SuperTroll, it was a wonderful article. That Monbiot has championed so much stupidity, and has the arrogance to believe that anyone who tries to correct it, is wrong, before they have even started, probably explains why few are reading The Guardian, let alone prepared to help out with it's self inflicted failed business modelling.

The Guardian's cultivation of Labour's self destruction is something to behold, and is receiving unprecedented admiration in the Conservative Party.

The Guardian's support of the 97% Consensus neatly summarises their understanding of how science works, and their opinions on other issues of a scientific nature are probably best ignored. As EU funding for science research starts to dry up, The Guardian will forget to admit their involvement in corrupting science, and degrading it's credibility.

The decline in the BBC is linked to its dependency on The Guardian. I still care about the BBC, but the BBC , like Labour, has a death wish.

rhoda. I'm sure you do something similar to what I do - you read widely from across the spectrum. I read the Guardian Monday to Friday and the Telegraph and Times at the weekend. I also partially neutralize my leftish leanings by reading this blogsite. It might not be too apparent, but since contributing here my politics have become more balanced.

We are obliged to deal with the Guardian because it is the organ of the metro left. We are not obliged to read it, indeed I don't read any paper now. It would be nice if we could find any paper, magazine or broadcast outfit which would truly give both sides. Perhaps the problem is that some of us on all sides prefer to read confirmatory items, to live in the echo chamber, so much that we would not recognise such a fair medium if there was one.