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Pages on the Schrodinger's Cat GHG thread were spent explaining why this doesn't work.
Feb 11, 2018 at 10:38 PM | Entropic man
Pages on the same thread were filled by you denying any mistakes by Climate Science, yet Climate Scientists have failed to prove that their theories work. As a Science Teacher, would you mark this as a success, or a fail?
golf charlie
"It is a long string of dubious and wrong statements designed to overwhelm a reader and stop them checking. I will treat it with the contempt it deserves."
Feb 11, 2018 at 10:38 PM | Entropic man
You describe Climate Science, and why it deserves contempt.
golf charlie
Poor debaters have a habit of throwing out accusations which projections of their own flaws
BTW .... EM quoted 2 links to proof of real world CO2 warming proof
The first was a Nature paper (which was paywalled)
- The second was a piece based on that Nature Paper
(Phys.org is not a journal or high science site. All it does is grab science stories and sticks adverts around them)
Saying "A measurement is the same as an estimate" is just trying to redefine language
..they are not the same thing.
stewgreen
Your first link is known in the trade as a Gish Gallop.
Feb 11, 2018 at 10:38 PM | Entropic man
Only by dishonest trrades.
golf charlie
Neither "climate scientists" nor entropic men concede that the "greenhouse effect" is due to lack of convection as distinct from suppressed radiation: what happens when greenhouse vents are opened?
On that same principle, on WUWT Willis Eisenbach is demonstrating the cooling effect of tropical storms which limit sea surface temperatures to 30C. Warmists dare not accept the trivial effect of CO2 - to do so would put 'em out of business.
Brent Hargreaves
"Don't believe anyone who tells you that you can take perfect measurements.
All measurements are estimates"
You manage to be patronising and irrelevant in two short sentences. Not all estimates are measurements.
DaveS
EM hasn't noticed because he doesn't read subversive literature.
Feb 11, 2018 at 5:07 PM | Supertroll
He does. Meanwhile, Phil Clarke also quotes Junior Hockey Team Science
https://www.skepticalscience.com/broken-hockey-stick.htm
"While many continue to fixate on Mann's early work on proxy records, the science of paleoclimatology has moved on"
Why "move on" from unbroken science?
At the same time, why do Climate Scientists fixate on proving/confirming the Hockey Stick? Simple, they get taxpayers money for it. Gergis proved it, twice! Nobody got a refund, and Peer Reviewed Gergis 2016 has not been withdrawn or retracted by Climate Science.
Climate Science is in Denial. They have no evidence to support their claims and salaries. I think Trump could cut expenditure by 97%, and the quality of Climate Science would improve, if they Ditch The Stick.
golf charlie
Radical rodent
Don't believe anyone who tells you that you can take perfect measurements.
All measurements are estimates
Your first link is known in the trade as a Gish Gallop. It is a long string of dubious and wrong statements designed to overwhelm a reader and stop them checking. I will treat it with the contempt it deserves.
Your second link is the old compressed atmosphere hypothesis. Pages on the Schrodinger's Cat GHG thread were spent explaining why this doesn't work. In case you have forgotten, there are two problems.
Firstly it doesn't generate enough energy. It produces a measurable effect on Jupiter, but rocky planets do not have enough atmosphere. Secondly, you can only do it once. Compress the atmosphere and it warms. Then the heat radiates to space and the planet's cools. You cannot produce sustained warming.
Entropic man
Women will bear brunt of survival tasks as climate warms, warns Hillary Clinton
Feb 12, 2018 at 12:14 AM | stewgreen
Will St Hillary and Huma Abedin be required to smash rocks in prison?