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Nov 10, 2013 at 5:01 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

TinyCO2
I hope you're wrong (though I fear you're right). On present showing Cameron is out to lose in 2015 but taking a hard line on warming alarmism now, even to the point of admitting he was wrong about the need for the "greenest government ever", might just save him — and us since any other result will just increase the unnecessary pain.*
Trouble is it could be the Dick Turpin option: your government or your wife!

*And please nobody mention UKIP. I'm talking about the real world here.

Nov 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM | Registered CommenterMike Jackson

you missed the full name of the link
The Curious Case of Polywater In the 1960s, scientists discovered a new form of water. How did they get it so wrong?
BTW - Yesterday "settled science" discovered there was an extra obvious knee ligament

Nov 10, 2013 at 4:48 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

The curious case of polywater.

I found this fascinating story on the internet today

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/11/polywater_history_and_science_mistakes_the_u_s_and_ussr_raced_to_create.2.html

Nov 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM | Unregistered Commenterpesadia

Josh has done it again.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/11/09/saturday-silliness-the-zero-of-all-sums-ooommmm/#more-97134

Nov 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Reed

"Time to shut down DECC, don't you thimk?
Give Energy to a minister in Owen Paterson's department (Ridley might make a decent candidate if he wants the job) and just leave the civil servants at DECC to turn up for work and do nothing until they get bored and resign." Mike Jackson

I don't think the Conservatives will do much about the DECC until the election. If global warming resumes they'll turn out to be behind it. If it turns out to be a waste of money, they'll claim that they had to give the Liberal Democrats some jobs and what could the poor Conservatives do with the other half of the team running amok? It suits them to have climate change off their plate.

Nov 10, 2013 at 2:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

Phillip
As SandyS says, the devil finds work for idle hands and there isn't — and shouldn't be — enough work to keep a whole department busy with energy issues.
It ought to be part of Trade & Industry except that that would bring it within Cable's remit and shouldn't need more than a junior minister and a handful of civil servants to ensure that a sensible energy policy is carried through. That is what the industry has been demanding for years whether traditional sources, renewables, or pie in the sky research for the future (thorium or extracting sunbeams from sea water or anything else that won't work now but just might in theory given time).
By all means offer tax breaks for untried (but worth trying) developments. The trouble is that wind is not untried; it was tried for several centuries and replaced at lightning speed once something better came along and its unreliability and unpredictability makes it more useless for energy production than it was for grinding wheat into flour.
Not only that but the rationale was wrong from day one. Modern civilisation is like a super-tanker. You can't change course at the drop of a hat (at least in a democratic society). You can argue that weaning mankind off fossil fuels makes sense but as with babies, try doing it all at once and disaster will result.
Unfortunately the eco-activists know they have only a short time to turn the ship round before we all realise they're a bunch of chancers with not the slightest interest in anything but their own warped ideas of how the world works.

Nov 10, 2013 at 1:55 PM | Registered CommenterMike Jackson

"Usually GP actions only benefit Russian interests .."
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Yes, a much understated point. I think the analysis of bulk-greenpeace support never gets as far as taking that point on-board.

Nov 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM | Unregistered Commentermichael hart

- Anyone seen a good breakdown of the Drax Fiasco ? (oh it's on WUWT)
adds on extra £35-40 to the current £112/year/household GreenTax
- £1bn/year subsidy for Drax divided by 26.4 million households
oh and you'll pay £30 for the conversion costs of £700m
http://catallaxyfiles.com
Mail March 2013 .... Bish Sept 2012
It took a tree hugger
..to really b*gger Drax !
- If we did renationalise Drax and keep it as coal on the excuse of what is good enough for the Germans ..., then we'd save money

Nov 10, 2013 at 10:36 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Wednesday 29 August 2012
Headline : The day the world went mad
George Monbiot: As record sea ice melt scarcely makes the news while the third runway grabs headlines, is there a form of reactive denial at work?

- Monbiot & the Guardian been writing much about record ice levels in the Antarctic & record ice recovery in the Artic this year have they ?
..Dramagreening, it's all about dirty PR and not about the facts

Nov 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

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