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The Huhne response at DECC to Lords Turnbull and Lawson is hilarious. The man is bonkers and dangerous. Get him in jail.

Nov 24, 2011 at 5:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhillip Bratby

DECC and Huhne strike again here:

"With bills rising because of rocketing global energy prices, the Government wants to see as many people as possible benefiting when the Green Deal hits the high street next year."

So, now the UK needs windmills to protect the peasants from "rocketing prices", it is absolutely nothing to do with "saving the planet" - now that the IPCC world has fallen out of their bottom.

Energy and Climate Change Secretary Chris Huhne said:

"The earlier you Green Deal your home, the quicker you'll benefit from a warmer and cosier property as well as protect yourself from rocketing prices."

...... making their property warmer and cosier straight away, with repayments made over time out of the energy savings. Strict standards will be put in place to prevent consumers being ripped off by cowboys."

The only cowboys that the UK peasants need protection from are those dodgy geezers who roam the range in the House of Commons.

Did they not try this wheeze in Oz and had to abandon it because cowboy "pink batt" installers caused deaths and destruction of houses.

Of course, to protect UK peasants, Huhne will put in place "strict standards"!

What could possibly go wrong?

Nov 24, 2011 at 5:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterBrownedoff

Steve McIntyre is having fun, he wants emails that mention travel to the hotter parts of the world.

Considering the vitriol The Team show in the emails he is reacting in a highly professional manner.

Nov 24, 2011 at 5:39 PM | Unregistered Commenterbreath of fresh

And 5303.txt (Phil Jones knocking back a journalist's request for a few comments about Copenhagen) dates from 6 Nov 2009 - very close to the date of the release of the original emails.

Nov 24, 2011 at 5:15 PM | Unregistered CommenterTurning Tide

Interesting comments in 5304.txt from Malcolm Hughes, on the reliability of age estimates of tree ring samples:

4) I don't know what alternative standardization methods you had in mind, but
you should be aware that it would be completely unjustified to assume that the
first measured ring was anywhere near the pith in many of these sites, especially
as you go back in time, where the chronologies are based on remnants that have
weathered on the inside and the outside. For this, and related, reasons, it would
also be completely unjustified to assume any constant, or small, distance in
years of the first measured rings from pith. That is, I can see no way of making a
remotely reliable estimate of cambial age in the vast majority of these samples. I
am sitting on the bones of a manuscript in which I had someone spend several
months checking many hundreds of bristlecone and similar cross-sections and
cores in our store. They found only a few dozen - less than 10%, were either pith
was present, or the innermost ring could reasonbly be described as 'near pith' . I
have another manuscript in a slightly better state of preparation where we
restandardized many of these series in the following way - identify the long,
flat part of the smaple ringwidth curve (i.e. remove the 'grand period of growth',
if present) and then fit a straight line of no or negative slope.

Nov 24, 2011 at 5:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterTurning Tide

Juliette Jowlitt has some interpretations:

"What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multidecadal natural fluctuation? They'll kill us probably ..."

Tommy Wills, Swansea University to the mailing list for tree-ring data forum ITRDB, 28 Mar 2007 (email 1682)

Wils' email is part of an exchange about whether and how to respond to climate sceptic criticisms. It appears to be a point made for more for rhetorical effect than anything else. As one contributor on the blog Quark Soup by David Appell put it: "Well, at least they considered it as an option."

Nov 24, 2011 at 4:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterTS

This has been discussed over at Anthony's, but just for the record I think it should be listed here:

the late John Daly's email to MikeMann and the team

URL text:

Nov 24, 2011 at 3:46 PM | Unregistered Commenterlapogus

Excellent piece by Katabasis on churnalism, esp WRT the Environment Agency and, of course, the Beeb...


(H/t Stephen Brown at Harmless Sky)

Nov 24, 2011 at 1:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames P

Phil Jones other job: Court advisor to Greenpeace:

from: Phil Jones <REDACTED>
subject: Fwd: Greenpeace

Dear All,
I've not got the time to do this. If anyone is interested then email Mike Schwarz.
I've told him I've no time. Bear in mind the other side will likely get someone to
put the opposite view across. Not sent widely as I presume a court would only be
impressed by qualifications.

Subject: Greenpeace
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:49:15 +0100
Thread-Topic: Greenpeace
Thread-Index: AcW6G77TJ2PQCOHXTWyyZ6w4u6nI9QFeWxLwAAANZpA=
From: "Mike Schwarz" <REDACTED>
X-UEA-Spam-Score: 0.1
X-UEA-Spam-Level: /
X-UEA-Spam-Flag: NO



Dear Professor Jones
Please forgive this e-mail out of the blue.
I have been given your name by Greenpeace.
I am acting for some Greenpeace campaigners who face criminal proceedings arising from a
protest about a new Landrover model which they say is unnecessarily fuel-inefficient and
therefore contributes more than necessary to climate change.
I am looking for an expert who might be able to prepare a short (4 or 5 pages) report -
aimed at a lay audience, rather than cutting edge science - summarising the connection
between human activity and climate change and the effects of climate change with a view,
if need be, to giving evidence at my clients' trial - at West London Magistrates Court
on 28^th and 31^st October.
My clients have legal aid to be represented and so I would be able to pay for a report.
Is this something, in principle, you would be able and willing to help with?
If so I shall give you further details.
If not, is there someone else you could suggest?
You should be aware that I have written in similar terms to Professor Hulme.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Mike Schwarz

This email is from Bindman & Partners Solicitors of 275 Gray's Inn Road London WC1X 8QB,
REDACTEDREDACTED A list of partners is available on request.

This email is intended to be read only by the addressee. Its contents are confidential
and may also be the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient
of this email and it has therefore reached you by mistake, please notify this firm
immediately at the address given below. You are hereby placed on notice that any
copying, publication or any other form of dissemination of this email or its contents is
prohibited. Communications including e-mails may be monitored in the interests of
maintaining professional standards.
If you have received this email in error or have any questions please contact:

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit TelephoneREDACTED3 592090
School of Environmental Sciences FaxREDACTED3 507784
University of East Anglia

Nov 24, 2011 at 12:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterJason F

oops, wish there was an edit button it was Phil asking David Parker not to pass it on

Nov 24, 2011 at 11:55 AM | Unregistered CommenterJason F

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