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Fancy trying to out perform the UKMET?

The weather project

By Roger Harrabin
BBC Environment Analyst

So BBC News is trying to bring you the answer to the question "who can we trust?".

We are launching a Weather Test where we'll study the predictions of a number of people using different forecasting methods and we'll attempt to conclude which is most accurate.
To help us we've formed a steering group including Paul Hardaker, who runs the Royal Meteorological Society; Martin Dougherty, director of the Royal Statistical Society; and a member of the Royal Astronomical Society.

Other partners on the Weather Test steering group are the Willis Research Network of insurers, who take an obvious interest in weather matters; and Philip Eden, an independent weather historian. The group is completed by myself and my colleague Dominic Groves, Assistant Editor of the Today programme, who will manage the project within the BBC.

When methodology has been agreed, the comparison of forecasts will be done by the University of Leeds.

We want this to be an open project, so we're inviting members of the public to a public meeting in London on Tuesday 12 October, where we'll discuss our plans so far.

If you're interested in taking part, please get in touch using the form at the bottom of the page.

The Royal Society is not involved in the project, but one of their fellows Professor Tim Palmer, incoming president of the Royal Meteorological Society, has agreed to scrutinise the methodology.

Sep 25, 2010 at 9:34 AM | Unregistered CommenterLord Beaverbrook

This is What Global Warming looks like

slick propaganda

Sep 23, 2010 at 8:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterQ

@ Messenger

I have experimented on a number of occasions with the recommend button, and have found sceptical comments to not register on many occasions, but when I have clicked on a warmist comment, an immediate addition.

Sep 22, 2010 at 9:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterDave L

I tried to recommend a (sceptical) comment on CiF this morning. not something I usually do, but it seemed to me rather well written. It was at 55 and I was surprised when it didn't seem to have moved to 56 and there was I thinking perhaps I hadn't clicked it properly.

Sep 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterMessenger

Amazing events are happening at The Graun. For some time I have been viewing CIF, and used to comment until I was put on premoderation, not for anything offensive, but because I suspect that one of the mods took a dislike to what I had to say. These days none of my comments are put up.

However, I still go to CIF to witness the warmists getting their arses kicked into the middle of next week by contributors far more eloquent than me, and I use the recommend button accordingly. On many occasions, I have suspected that there has been shenanigans going on behind the scenes with the recommends. Too many reccs for a sceptical viewpoint - comment deleted, or the recc does'nt register.
Or a warmist comment can suddenly aquire 10 or 20 reccs in as many minutes.

But there has always been one constant, which is that the sceptical recommends on the majority of AGW articles outnumber the recommends on the opposing side.

Until the blog fight kicked off with Mr Monbiot. In an article entitled 'Chemical nonsense': Leading scientists refute Lord Monckton's attack on climate science. Out of a total of 203 comments, the first comment which includes an ad hom on Monckton has an incredible 237 recommends, and there is barely a comment from a sceptic, at least on page one. I could'nt be bothered to look further as CIF has now lost what little remaining credibility it once had.

Did the editors and moderators of CIF graduate from the Pravda School of Journalism, and study for Doctorates at the University of Pyong Yang?


Sep 22, 2010 at 5:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterDave L

Bishop Hill,

Is there anything happening in the background as far as updates / assessments of the police investigation of the release of the CRU emails?


Sep 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Whitman

L'Académie des Sciences has issued a press release after all.

Sep 21, 2010 at 10:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterDreadnought

@ ZedsDeadBed

Just so all the information is spread around....

Sep 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss H

Poor old Moonbat is sounding very down in the mouth over at the Gruniad:

Only a thoroughly heartless person could fail to be moved by such despondency (snigger).

Sep 20, 2010 at 8:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterTurning Tide


The French Académie des Sciences debate on Climate Science is taking place today. Closed sesssion, no communication to the Press. Speakers had to deliver their submissions, in confidence, by the end of August. Inside sources say the aim is to identify what is consensus and what is debateable.

Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterDreadnought

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