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The Green Blob should be demonstrating through the streets of Iran, denouncing the leaders as heretics. Not only are they building nukes, but now threatening the Holiness of the Paris Climate fiasco.

May 21, 2018 at 8:01 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

To be fair on the authors of the original paper, they are (as suggested by stewgreen) talking about emissions and not atmospheric levels. Presumably McGrath has difficulty understanding the difference. However, simply changing the sentence from "atmospheric levels" to "emissions" would still be a bit of a stretch, as they have not "detected" a rise in emissions, they have "inferred" one on the basis that atmopsheric levels are not dropping as fast as they expected.

May 21, 2018 at 6:06 AM | Unregistered CommenterJR

@JR, May 20, 2018 at 9:53 PM

+1 spot on

May 20, 2018 at 11:14 PM | Registered CommenterPcar

cos McGrath's article has those initial errors I checked Newniffer for BBC edits
actually no revisions yet
bu there is a Guardian article from same day
Damian Carrington : Mysterious rise in banned ozone-destroying chemical shocks scientists
CFCs have been outlawed for years but researchers have detected new production somewhere in east Asia //

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@JR I guess maybe first sentence has a word missing
: "scientists have detected an unexpected rise in EMISSIONS of CFC-11".

May 20, 2018 at 11:09 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Ozone Hole. The profits made from inventing new refrigerants, depends on finding reasons to get the old ones banned as their Copyrights/Patents run out. Someone, somewhere in SE Asia can't be bothered, and nor can the Ozone Hole.

May 20, 2018 at 10:31 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

This is greenspin (flat out lying) taken to a new level.

First sentence: "scientists have detected an unexpected rise in atmospheric levels of CFC-11". No they have not ... it is continuing to decline and there has not been any rise in atmospheric levels (unexpected or otherwise).

Second sentence (for those who read that far): "CFC-11 was seen to be declining as expected but that fall has slowed down by 50%".

Ah, so we lied when we said that is was rising unexpectedly but what we actually meant to say was that it is continuing to decline but less fast than we had expected.

Are these really scientists and yet do not know the difference?

May 20, 2018 at 9:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterJR

"Mysterious rise in emissions of ozone-damaging chemical
By Matt McGrath
Environment correspondent
16 May 2018"

"Scientists have detected an unexpected rise in atmospheric levels of CFC-11, a chlorofluorocarbon (CFC) highly damaging to the ozone layer.

Banned by the Montreal Protocol in 1987, CFC-11 was seen to be declining as expected but that fall has slowed down by 50% since 2012.

Researchers say their evidence shows it's likely that new, illegal emissions of CFC-11 are coming from East Asia.

These could hamper the recovery of the ozone hole and worsen climate change."


"The authors of this research say it's likely that illegal production of CFC-11 in East Asia is behind the rise.

"They do point in that direction, fairly definitively," Dr Stephen Montzka from the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) told BBC News.

"We are making the measurements from very far away from these regions and I think more specificity is going to come once the people... in that region...look carefully at their measurements and publish their results," he added.

"Any production of an ozone-depleting gas that's controlled by the Montreal Protocol has to be reported to the ozone secretariat, and, currently, global production is essentially zero. We know of no production even for intermediary or side products."

The researchers are puzzled as to what the motivation for any unauthorised new production might be.

They point to the fact that since the production of these chemicals was ended over eight years ago, any industry that was involved in this work would have transitioned to other substances.

"It's disappointing, I would not have expected it to happen," said Dr Michaela Hegglin from Reading University, UK, who was not involved in the study.

"The newer substances that are out there, the replacements for CFC-11, might be more difficult or expensive for some countries to produce or get at.

"I hope that somehow the international community can put pressure on South East Asian countries, maybe China, to go and look at whether they can get more information on where the emissions come from. They should tell the industries that's not going to work."

The study authors point out that while CFC-11 can persist in the atmosphere for 50 years, the overall level of chlorine atoms is still declining.

However, if no action is taken on the new source of emissions, it could be highly significant.

"If the emissions were to persist, then we could imagine that healing of the ozone layer, that recovery date, could be delayed by a decade," said Dr Montzka.

It could also make a contribution to rising global temperatures."

And we're supposed to believe that China is seriously signed up to international agreements regarding climate change and the environment...

May 20, 2018 at 8:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

May 20, 2018 at 5:30 PM | tomo

The Green Blob is running out of suckers.

May 20, 2018 at 6:56 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Come across another tentacle of the Green Blob - or just a sucker?

Ditto Sustainability

May 20, 2018 at 5:30 PM | Registered Commentertomo

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