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Discussion > The New War on Plastics

The Times reviwer gave Bonin's prog 5/5

Oct 2, 2018 at 4:35 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Times : shout of conflict of interest against David McDowell cos he produced an INDEPENDENT report for Food standatoagency onbthe importance to health of plastic packaging.

And yet he had done a previous report Pack2Go which represents manufacturers

FSA said that doesn't break any rules.

Oct 29, 2018 at 5:13 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Today the Times gave its Thunderer column over to pseudo-green PR outfit CPRE
Samantha Harding used it to campaign against plastic drinks containers
... no mention was made of CPRE receiving money fro the Dutch manufacturer of reverse vending machines.

Mar 20, 2019 at 4:51 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Catching up from the Times June 12th
Humans ingest 5g of plastic per week
ie a whole credit cards worth
...bet they don't
thats 250g per year

Sure we inhale some
+ some we get some in via our mouth and stomach
but it all goes through
No one is saying that dead person has 1Kg of plastic in their body.

Jun 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Stewgreen: while they might not call it “plastic”, initially, they will declare that the body contains hydrocarbons (well, d’uuuh….) – and what is plastic, if not hydrocarbon? Q.E.D. and case closed. Next!

Jun 24, 2019 at 12:13 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

What I've never understood about plastic in the Pacific is how the micro-organisms can tell the difference between carbohydrate polymers derived from the petrochemical industry and those derived from trees.

The difference between wood and plastic is quite hard to define without a historical perspective.

Jun 25, 2019 at 1:17 PM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

Hydrocarbon. A compound composed ONLY of carbon and hydrogen. Compounds with additional elements, like oxygen and sulphur, including plastics, are not hydrocarbons.

Jun 25, 2019 at 1:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

M.Courtney. don't know for sure but 1) may be due to the predominance of certain isomers in those of biological origin, whereas other isomers are present in non-biological materials and cannot be used or are not preferred by organisms and 2) Most organic compounds, even tars containing hundreds or thousands of carbon atoms are ultimately consumed, given enough time. Most spilt oil, for example, is ultimately consumed.
Interesting Life Scientific this morning - all about microplastics. Only one failing , no discussion of removal mechanisms.

Jun 25, 2019 at 1:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

The idea that polymers may break down into right-handed stereoisomers is interesting. But most won't break down into stereoisomers at all.
We could easily ban the few that do with no loss.

Many plastics contain Sulphur and Oxygen which can be consumed even though thermo-sets may be hard to break up mechanically.
And I admit that halogenated polymers may be harder to digest. But adding chloride to the ocean isn't the worst form of pollution.

It just seems like a silly thing to worry about. It's a subset of littering - which is a real problem. It's no more than that.

Jun 25, 2019 at 4:01 PM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

Littering is the problem , not the plastic.
It's like banning metals cos some is used in guns.

Jun 25, 2019 at 4:17 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

\\ Doctor Who to push eco message by highlighting plastic waste in new episode
EXCLUSIVE: Next series tackles climate change after issues like gender politics, racism and imperialism were explored in previous episodes //

Jul 2, 2019 at 8:38 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen