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Discussion > Parallels between Art/Climate faud

Went to a lecture last night
It featured on 2 sets of art crooks who specialised in faking art works and their provenance and get them past verifcation experts into auctions
One painter got 200 of paintings out. And when you see some of them they don't look that similar to the originals artists.
The Greenhalgh family from Bolton sold dozens of forgeries, at one point having 5 artworks lodged with different departments of the British museum. And even though one department dismissed one item as a forgery, it didn't tell the other departments. The famous one is the "The Faun" bought by the Art Institute of Chicago for about $125,000.
- An insider, no it's even worse than that the auction industry is awash with works which the knowledgeable know are frauds.
what's going on ? My guess that in any industry there is water flow path of least resistance.. : The auction houses don't make money if they turn down stuff for sale , and there is a whole series of commissions and prestige points for experts who go with that flow. Others keep their voices down for fear of rocking the boat.
To me there seem clear parallels with the way the Climate industry works, with it's cherrypicking "experts" etc. and the way astounding things are accepted. Peter Wadham's predictions

Sep 6, 2017 at 10:11 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Sep 6, 2017 at 10:11 AM | stewgreen

There is no money to be made from fraud busting or whistle blowing, in your own environment. Whilst everybody is making money, based on the consensus that more money will result, people who rock the boat get thrown overboard.

Sep 6, 2017 at 1:22 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Oh well i thought it's an interesting point even if no one else does.

Nov 6, 2017 at 9:29 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Stew, You are right - it's a very interesting analogue - the art world is even more dominated by consensus beliefs than climate "science" is.


Nov 6, 2017 at 9:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterAnthony Ratliffe

stewgreen, I do think it is an interesting point, and I stand by my previous response, along with that of Anthony Ratcliffe.

Climate Science does not want to admit that Mann's Hockey Stick is not what it was claimed to be.

Nov 6, 2017 at 10:57 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

It is an interesting analogy - maybe Lewandowsky should write a piece explaining the similarities...

Nov 7, 2017 at 8:41 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

But Lewandowsky would say he was inviting SurRealist Climateers to fuse their impressions of Munch's The Scream, whilst avoiding the unwanted faded glory, of the once triumphant wind powered Fighting Temeraire being tugged ignominiously towards the breakers yard, by coal fired post-modernism.

Nov 7, 2017 at 9:21 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Suggest Picasso's Guernica be reinterpreted as a representation of future climate Armageddon.

Nov 7, 2017 at 9:37 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Or the evolution of Mann?

Shame there is no Hockey Stick, so bent, it looks like a boomerang, and keeps coming back, no matter how many times it is thrown away.

Nov 7, 2017 at 11:57 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie