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Element 79. Are you a refugee climate scammer, using a chart of Euro-pound relations to illustrate that Brexit had no effect? A chart that ends approximately at the time of the referendum? The reported 20% drop in the value of the pound is from that referendum date.
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Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

The link, from the view on the USA, between Brexit and the American populism seems pretty clear and positive. The EU is increasingly run by unelected oligarchies wielding power by regulation and dismissal of critics as deplorables who are unworthy of more than funding loser policies. That's what Americans in sufficient numbers rejected in our election. The Brexit movement, it seems, is being tested hard by those in the UK who seek to over throw the vote results. In the UK, that means spinning the news and impeding the Brexit. The EU seeks to scare the UK and pressure the government of the UK into ignoring the vote. After all Brussels ignores votes and popular opinion as a basic strategy anyway. In the US we have the oligarchy pushing back with Russian boogie men, parsing President Trump to twist his words, and bureaucracy slow walk and sabotage. Stand strong. Don't be for quitting. Freedom is worth it.

Jan 21, 2017 at 12:00 PM | Unregistered Commenterhunter

More relevant to Donald Trump, will be how the dollar is effected, by US business having confidence in the USA.

If the USA becomes more self reliant for energy, including oil, gas and nuclear, and not stagnated by Climate Science Fiction, having to buy everything from abroad, the Dollar will strengthen. If UK PM May follows Trump's energy self sufficiency initiative, the Pound will also rise, leaving the Euro facing more problems.

A strong currency is not necessarily a solution. A stable currency is. The Euro may become increasingly unstable. Thank you Gordon Brown for keeping the Pound.

Jan 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

@supertroll 1145am
"A chart that ends approximately at the time of the referendum"
The chart runs from 25 January 2007 to 15 January 2017.

"Are you a refugee climate scammer"
Very free with insults, I see. Do you make them up yourself?

"The reported 20% drop in the value of the pound is from that referendum date."
So you will happily believe any bullshit if it accords with what you like to think has happened, irrespective of reality.

A week or so before the Brexit vote, the pound was at 1.27€.
It is now at about 1.16€, a fall of about 9% since just before the referendum. Less than half of your "reported 20%". Too idle to look up the actual figures before posting your rubbish?

In mid June 2015 the pound was at 1.42€, so a drop of about 11% from then until just before the referendum. Bigger than the post-Brexit fall. You seem sufficiently capable of beleving anything that you probably will attribute that fall to the referendum result also.

The subsequent drop is a continuation of a fall that was already in progress. Attributing everything you don't like to Brexit is....Stupid.

Jan 21, 2017 at 3:24 PM | Unregistered Commenterelement79

Element 79. Depends where the years start on that graph (at the ticks on the bottom axis (which I admit I didn't see) or the dotted verticals that align better with the years (which I accepted to be boundaries between years). If my interpretation was correct then the data ends mid 2016 and my comments were based upon that. If the years start at the ticks, then I was grossly wrong and I owe you an apology. Blame it upon the poor design of the graph.
Neither your comments nor mine were as moderate as they could have been.

Jan 21, 2017 at 5:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

I don't know how the Pound will fare, but the Euro v Dollar exchange rate on Monday may offer a few clues about financial confidence. Confidence in Trump would see the Dollar and US Stockmarkets Rise, possibly the UK up a bit too. The Euro would probably fall.

If Trump intends to put America first, he is more likely to put UK interests above thise of the EU. The EU have already registered their disapproval, and the warm greetings he has received from other EU Exit groups, does not bode well.

If the EU favours an EU Army over NATO, the UK will have no option but to stay with what ever the EU Politicians decide to leave.

Without Harriers or Aircraft Carriers to fly them from, we need to beware Argentine Nationalists, looking for oil beneath disputed waters.

Jan 21, 2017 at 10:38 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie