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TailGate - Josh 389

Sir David King admits they got it wrong in another example of how the green blob trashes the planet while pretending to save it.

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If you have a modern diesel car (as I have) fitted with AdBlue technology, then all that comes out of the tailpipe is water vapour, carbon dioxide (not, repeat not) a pollutant, and nitrogen. (Look up AdBlue on Wikipedia.) These cars are not a problem.

Apr 7, 2017 at 1:38 PM | Unregistered CommenterMeistersinger


I think you'll find that the AdBlue cars have a smaller tank of pigpee than the smaller engine warrants proportionally vs say truck engines and there have been suggestions that the emissions tests have again been gamed.

By their nature vehicle engines are dynamic and the combustion process is never perfect - it's all a compromise. I look forward to demonstrators outside B&Q, Lidl and Aldi protesting about the planet killing fluffy bunny choking garden products and tools on sale.

The reasons behind the present barrage of "air quality" bleating and more - have little to do with actual air quality and much is politicised, subjective, emotionally charged(children, "vulnerable people") classic manufactured moral panic - with an eye on the victim's wallets.

I'm surprised Sadiq Knan hasn't said some air pollution is an unavoidable consequence of living in a conurbation of 10 million humans - learn to live with it - as he has for other issues where there are actual death certificates.

Apr 7, 2017 at 2:52 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Whilst the VW Audi Group have worked hard to sell the idea that they are the most reliable cars, They are not. Mazda,Honda,Lexus are all more reliable.

Apr 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM | Unregistered Commenterferdinand

Sorry to bring this up I'm about as PC as AIDS in a brothel ,you know how lefties like to jump on these things

But after Stockholm is it a good such a good idea to have a humorous cartoon featuring a HGV trunk

Apr 8, 2017 at 10:33 AM | Unregistered CommenterJamspid

Diesel tractors in Antarctica - well M Mann sure gets it

Apr 8, 2017 at 10:34 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

3 degrees: Chief scientist warns bigger rise in world's temperature will put 400 million at risk
By Andrew Grice, Political Editor Published: 15 April 2006

Should of course be "terror nature"

Apr 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM | Registered Commenterdennisa

Tony Heller is fighting to save the environment from people who claim to be environmentalists in Boulder, Colorado.

Insanity rules.

Apr 9, 2017 at 11:26 AM | Registered Commenterdennisa

"Add knowledge of PGM catalyst prices to the list of dietary supplements to add to radical rodent chow.

VW made its Bad Move after having to pay hundreds of dollars a gram for the rhodium content of its cordierite ehaust catalyst carriers,

Apr 6, 2017 at 4:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterRussell "

Rhodium trades on the currency market around $1050 per ounce for investment bullion by the ounce.

At 31.1035 grams per troy ounce, rhodium runs $33.76 per gram.

Apr 10, 2017 at 2:01 AM | Unregistered CommenterATheoK

What I find strange about this is there is no mention of the government reversing its current policy of paying huge subsidies to businesses installing diesel generators under the STOR scheme (Short Term Operating Reserve). STOR involves the government paying diesel operators many times the going rate to generate electricity for the grid. It exists because the government panicked when it became obvious even to idiots like politicians that intermittent renewables are nothing less than an unmitigated disaster when connected to the grid. There is no reason to believe that STOR diesels are any less polluting than those in motor cars, yet there is no suggestion they are going to be penalised as car owners are likely to be. Can it be that to phase out STOR publicly and desist from hosing it down with taxpayers' money would mean the whole mad energy policy bandwagon finally crashing into the buffers for all to see?

Apr 10, 2017 at 3:21 PM | Unregistered CommenterMartin Reed

"There is no reason to believe that STOR diesels are any less polluting than those in motor cars, ..."

Martin - quite the opposite AFAICT:

The Environment Agency’s Air Quality Modelling and Assessment Unit (AQMAU) were asked by the Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs (Defra) to investigate the potential for diesel generator arrays, for National Grid back up to cause a breach of the short term nitrogen dioxide (NO2) air quality Standard1. The NO2 short term standard is an hourly mean limit value of 200 μg/m3, not to be exceeded more than 18 times a year. Diesel generator arrays are a popular choice for applicants and operators in the energy capacity market to provide backup to the National Grid, due to lower cost, no gas connection requirements and quick ramp up times. This assessment considers diesel generator arrays with a combined power input of less than 50 megawatt thermal (MWth) and operating for up to 500 hours per year. The 50 MWth constraint has been selected because under the Industrial Emissions Directive2 these arrays would be Part A(1) installations and subject to regulation by the Environment Agency. 500 operating hours has been selected because generators operating less than 500 hours per year may be exempt from complying with emission limits under the Medium Combustion Plant Directive3.

From here:

Consultation on reducing emissions from Medium Combustion Plants and Generators to improve air quality
November 2016


The consultation runs for 12 weeks. The consultation will close 8 February 2017.
Following the close of the consultation period, Government will publish a summary of all the responses received, unless specifically notified otherwise
Government will, within 3 months of the close of the consultation, publish the consultation response. This response will take the form of decisions made in light of the consultation and reasons given for decisions finally taken. This document will be published on the Defra website with paper copies available on request.

Apr 10, 2017 at 4:22 PM | Unregistered Commenternot banned yet

So in summary of the stupidity of the Green Blob:

Diesel engines (ie compression ignition engines) have now been found to be killing tens of thousands of people per year, even though no living person had noticed. We were told to switch to diesel engines, because they were better for the environment.

The type of fuel used in a diesel engine does not have to be "Diesel" as sold at garages in the UK. Lots of people, companies etc bought diesel engined vehicles, so they could run them on used chip fat and purpose grown veggie oil, because it was even better for the Environment, but this isn't true either, as it is the compression ignition engine, not the actual fuel, that kills all these people that no one had noticed.

Bio fuel production HAS caused armed conflict, famine and death due to food shortages, which the Green Blob have blamed on Global Warming.

We now have electricity generation increasingly reliant on Unreliable methods of generating electricity. Realising things had gone wrong, Emergency Generators have been installed to keep Government Offices and Hospitals running during a failure of Unreliables. These Emergency Diesel Generators have been renamed STORs, so the public won't realise they are Emergency Diesel Generators.

This is now more embarrassing, because David King who advised the Government now says he was wrong, and our hospitals now depend on diesel engines to power ambulances to get those at risk to hospital, and power the hospital, whilst the latest experts are saying diesel sends people to hospitals and graveyards.

These STORs are allowed to run for 500 hours per year. 500÷24=20 days and nights continuous running and life saving in hospitals ( + tea breaks and refuelling, because they probably don't store that amount of fuel, and the diesel tanker will be powered by more diesel anyway)

All of this to save us from the non-existent Global Warming, caused by CO2 that remains deemed guilty, despite zero evidence. Shouldn't we just switch off the Green Blob's Life Support, ie money?

Apr 10, 2017 at 5:50 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Yep, gc, we had the tragedy, now the farce. Tell me, please, which is which?

Apr 10, 2017 at 8:27 PM | Unregistered Commenterkim

Yep, gc, we had the tragedy, now the farce. Tell me, please, which is which?

Apr 10, 2017 at 8:27 PM | kim

Climate Science is a farce, AND a tragedy, combined. It is not a special offer, you are forced to buy one, and are then forced to buy the other for ten times the advertised price, again and again.

Apr 10, 2017 at 11:07 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

PH has yet another article about models

Steve Milloy : Exposes big problems with the death stat claims and he's supported by a senior retired expert in that.
#1 The WTimes article The EPA lied — nobody died
"The Environmental Protection Agency’s human experiment program exaggerated the danger of outdoor pollutants"
Context : The harm from diesels is supposed to come from Particulates and NOx

He explains EPA have been caught in a bind and are admitting that particulates PM25 aren't so harmful ..otherwise they'd have to explain why they've continued with exposing their human research subjects.

#2 \\Epidemiologist accuses prominent EPA-funded researchers of ‘deliberate misrepresentation’ //

Apr 10, 2017 at 11:33 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Euan Mearns has a detailed piece on all of this, Mortality from Diesel Car Pollution in the UK

Apr 12, 2017 at 9:53 AM | Registered CommenterPaul Matthews

Euan Mearns has a detailed piece on all of this, Mortality from Diesel Car Pollution in the UK

Apr 12, 2017 at 9:54 AM | Registered CommenterPaul Matthews

Sorry, duplicate posts

Apr 12, 2017 at 9:54 AM | Registered CommenterPaul Matthews

oops, duplicate

Apr 12, 2017 at 10:01 AM | Registered CommenterPaul Matthews

Climate Science has passed its Political Sell-By Date, though Taxpayers still have it rammed down their throats, when it is unfit for public consumption.

The demise of Fake News attributed to Climate Science, correlating deaths to causes linked to their earnings, gets more painful, the longer it is dragged out.

Apr 12, 2017 at 11:29 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Like most folk I bought a diesel engine purely on the basis that it cost less to run at a time when fuel prices were sky-high. Both petrol and diesel fuel are the same price and were increasing in price by the same amounts largely due to carbon taxes and false fears about peak oil leading to wild specualtion. The idea that anyone bought diesel instead of petrol to save the planet is risible. The sheeple do not give a toss about climate change. The few faux-greens who profess to care rarely translate that into actions with their purchases.

There is no diesel versus petrol debate. The green blob doesn't want either. But as an excellent recent documentary reminded us, the modern world depends on diesel so it isn't going away any time soon. All we have here is an excuse for more taxation to spend on more white elephants.

Apr 16, 2017 at 9:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterJasG

Vaguely off-topic - but sort of relevant....
Can anyone explain to me how three s*dding great wind turbines near the roundabout where the A22 out of Eastbourne meets the A27 Polegate bypass - got approval..?
Not only are they a massive eyesore - and more often than not stationary of course - but a SERIOUS road safety hazard as you approach them up the A22, because they demand that you take your eyes off the road at a crucial junction...
We are told not to use mobile phones etc whilst driving - but I wonder how many extra accidents and near-misses these dreadful things have caused..?
Maybe Sussex Police can provide the figures...

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:11 AM | Unregistered Commentersherlock1

Sherlock1: given the propensity of parts of those things to take a “leap into independence,” it will not be too long before a public death is caused. Like so many things in life, it is only at that point when their presence and worth will be re-evaluated.

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:27 AM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Diesel STOR is subsidised at nearly 12x Grid Price. It was, against scientific advice by the late Dvid McKay, introduced by Lib Dumb Ed Davey when he realised in 2012 that the windmills did not work. The practical purpose is to provide an extra earnings' stream for government. The windmills still do not work but the lights stay on as Grid prices continue to rise.

Apr 17, 2017 at 4:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlecM

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:11 AM | sherlock1

Give it a few years, and there will be statistics about the number of road deaths caused by wind turbines. Whether more accidents are caused by drivers distracted and surprised to seem them turning, or drivers distracted and angry at seeing them continually not turning, will be predetermined by the funding source of the research and subsequent report.

Apr 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

There GC goes again- it must be the cumulative effect of all those Josh cartoons.

Apr 23, 2017 at 4:40 AM | Unregistered CommenterRussell

Why do you ask questions when you do not allow anyone to answer, Mr Seitz? Fear of being called out? While science in Doctor Johnson's day may well have been grounded in “certainty,” science has grown up a lot since then, and accepts that certainty is NOT always attainable. Most of the truly great scientists cheerfully accept that; it is only the weak-willed wannabes who can convince themselves that they have found this elusive “certainty.”

It is also a bit odd how you should pick on the hapless Golf Charlie in your attack on Josh’s cartoons when he (or she – or it, now, considering the medical travails endured) was commenting on the possibility of wind-turbines causing road accidents. Yours is a strange mind, indeed, Mr Seitz.

Apr 23, 2017 at 12:44 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Ravishing Rattie.
You ignore the obvious answer - his foamship comes here for only one reason - to advertize his vanity project website where nobody, IHHO (in his "humble" opinion), has the necessary mental acuity to comment upon the riches laid forth therein. Without the necessary fertilization of a website, such as this one, by comments from a diversity of respondents, it withers.

I suggest a competition for the best representation of the acronym VV, clearly what is suggested on his website is totally inappropriate. Gwendolyn your time has come.

Apr 23, 2017 at 5:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Quote time!

This is from one of my favourites, Richard Feynman, and a particularly apposite one for Mr Seitz: “If you thought science was certain, well, that is just an error on your part.

Yep. I guessed that, Minty. It was more of a rhetorical question, one that might get Mr Seitz thinking, for a change. His silence could indicate a few scenarios: he is mulling over what was said, and reviewing his entire life; he is in a momentous sulk; or, he is not really a frequent visitor to sites where he drops his bon mots, so could be in for a shock.

Apr 23, 2017 at 9:07 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Radical rodent refers to the wrong GC post.

BH customary denizens represent the modern antithesis of Dryden's Augustan wisdom, by turns ignorant and adamantly oblivious to the reproducible experiments on which the physics of radiative transfer are grounded.

Apr 24, 2017 at 12:10 AM | Unregistered CommenterRussell

His foamship comes here for only one reason – to advertise his excremental vanity project. When you do get a glimpse of it – well it goes up in flames.

https:// html

Apr 24, 2017 at 3:16 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

Kleinefeldmaus (Apr 24, 2017 at 3:16 AM) I do think Rattie is more ravishing than you have shown her - she is, after all an Arvicola amphibius, not a Rattus rattus, nor a Rattus norvegicus. She has a rounder nose, deep brown fur, a chubby face and short fuzzy ears and her tail, paws and ears are all covered with beautiful hair.
You have done her wrong.

Apr 24, 2017 at 6:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Aha Supertroll you are really quite disparaging of my portrayal l 3rd cousin whom I drew with loving faithfulness. And...notice her sprightly gait as she crossed the Bishop's bridge. But you miss the point my friend 'Super'. She dealt to that crappy intruder quick smart! In true rodent style. Saw him off a treat! She is a heroine! A True rodent.

Apr 24, 2017 at 7:31 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

Kleinefeldmaus. You are guilty of species blindness, but I applaud your uncanny portrayal of the sprightly gait and her determined and effective action.
Laudable effort, but could do better.

Apr 24, 2017 at 8:03 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Supertroll - how could you say such a thing - I am familiar with all my family and their cousins by the dozens. As you can see, I live in a field of grain - but there is a stream nearby wherein my aquatically inclined cousins live. If you keep this up - I might be inclined to call on them for assistance - they are mean and have been known to drown trolls - even the super variety. So you might be happier to be gentle with cute little me.

Apr 24, 2017 at 8:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

Supertroll - Well I seem to have lost my voice - but in the meantime I have checked with my cuzzies in the water - yep they def drown trolls

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Apr 24, 2017 at 9:23 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

Let us not quarrel, friends and allies should not bicker. Let Ravishing Rattie decide (if she can be bothered). I'm sure she will be utterly delighted 1) to be up in Hollywood lights, and 2) to be fought over, and of course she is never knowingly wrong. I only offered some species advice.
Trolls who sing beneath bridges, like my humble self, and river voles are friends although we often disagree. She can be a formidable defender, for which I am most grateful.

Apr 24, 2017 at 9:27 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Ha ha Super - nope - I wasn't quarrelling - just having a bit o' fun - Oh yes I spotted you under the Bish's bridge a couple of years ago - but then it might have been another troll - y' know they all look the same to rodents like me.
Let's know if that VV Russell fella comes back - I will call on my water friends to deal with him.

Apr 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

I am not sure whether to be flattered or offended – compounded by not being able to come up with anything even close to a witty response!

Nah… I’ve decided; offence is too selfish, as it is only take, take, take. I shall be flattered – at least you have not made me a shaven beaver! (That always seems to generate a giggle, but I’m still not sure why…)

Apr 24, 2017 at 11:03 AM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Mr Seitz: you are behind the times! Out of interest, I find it useful when referring to posts prior to the subject’s last post to include a temporal reference – e.g. Mr Seitz (Apr 24, 2017 at 12:10 AM): blah, bla-blah, blah…

Now, tell us where we can find the evidence that global warming (or its significant lack thereof these past 2 decades) has anything to do with human-produced CO2. Please note: solid, verifiable scientific evidence is what is sought, not opinion pieces or references to models.

It would also be useful if you could show us the evidence that the rise in CO2 that we have had for about 2 centuries is all the fault of humans, particularly in relation to their consumption of fossil fuels. (Again, solid, verifiable evidence is required, not opinion pieces or models.)

Just those two points will enable you to help your cause, as most sceptics have been seeking such simple evidence for an awfully long time, and found nary a trace of it, so you would be doing us all – and science – a huge favour.

Apr 24, 2017 at 11:16 AM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Hi Supertroll
Just went back to have a look at a bunch of trolls I saw at the Bish's bridge a couple of years ago -Not the prettiest - are you among this lot?
Just askin'

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Apr 24, 2017 at 11:28 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

Kleinefeldmaus. I returned to this site around February 2016 after a long lapse (2010?). As to my "prettiness" that depends upon who you ask, however my features are more refined than those you picture.

Apr 24, 2017 at 12:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Kleinefeldmaus. are you not a handsome Schermaus yourself? Your Disneyesque appearance (furry ears etc) would seem to rule you out of being a fine example of the Apodemus clan. Are you just a confused Arvicola?

Apr 24, 2017 at 4:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Supertroll then I can take it as a no – you weren’t among the lot who took that dip in the water.
As to my family I am definitely a feldmaus. We migrated to the South Pacific where the fields were green with plentiful grain and we multiplied – exponentially but the Schurmaus family never came – they wouldn’t leave their burrows poor timid folk. So confused ....well yes ...but vole ...nope.

Apr 24, 2017 at 9:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

My understanding is that passenger-size vehicle diesel engines produced much less nasties 20 years ago, before they were tinkered with by big Auto to reduce OCO-2. By de-tuning them to emit lower OCO-2, they actually emit a lot more NOX, particulates etc. A simple solution - re-tune them. Oh wait a minute, thats non negotiable!

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterDaveR

Who torched Kleinefeldmaus's link? The video was even less interesting than his non-pseudonym !

Apr 27, 2017 at 11:15 PM | Unregistered CommenterRussell

Vilipendous Vieux. Been playing with matches again? Speaking of duff pseudonyms....

Apr 28, 2017 at 7:13 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

VV 'Buttercup' passes by......again...

Apr 28, 2017 at 10:36 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

This is even more clueless than Douglas Field's earlier 'Gatecrashing ' effort- as a matter of reecord, I was invited to , and did delliver Congressional committee testimony years before Drs. Currry, Christy. Mann & Pielke. albeit my primary climate science briefing duties were to the White House..

My condolences to the Bishop on his preterite flock.

Apr 28, 2017 at 5:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterRussell

Poor old Russell - we did notice you there - invited? ...;well ....if you say so ...Buttercup

Apr 28, 2017 at 8:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

Poor old Russell - we did notice you there - invited? ...;well ....if you say so ...Buttercup


Apr 28, 2017 at 8:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

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