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Apr222016

In the news today - Josh 370

At Wind Energy's Absurd, they write:

We have repeatedly challenged the wisdom and morality of allowing multinational companies into the classroom to put their side of a story that is designed to cultivate acceptance of their industry into future generations.

You will remember Tommy the Turbine - a tale told to children in Ireland about the wonders of wind power. 

Well now Tommy has a rival - and our money is on Subsidy Sam getting the message out there. 
It is time the indoctrination of our children was stopped.

We have been requested to post this story and are delighted to oblige. 

Please share it as many times as you want and send it wherever you want.

'Subsidy Sam' was written by Lyndsey Ward to counter the shameless pro-wind propaganda allowed in schools. Lyndsey asked me to help out with a cartoon and I was only too happy to oblige. Today 'Subsidy Sam' made it into The Press and Journal, a Scottish newspaper - see below.

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You can read the whole story on the Facebook page and, as Lyndsey suggests, please do post/share/Tweet/Facebook as much as you can. I will update with a link to the online version when it becomes available.

Here is the cartoon on its own should you need it.

 

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Reader Comments (72)

The Royal Society for the Protection of Subsidies is now pro-bloodsports, and wants to legalise the hunting and shooting of their opponents, while they fish for more subsidies, using taxpayer funding to drive diesel powered juggernauts through local opposition.

Lavish subsidies are now an endangered species, threatened with extinction, and unless urgent and ruthless action is taken now, some of these con artists are going to revert to selling deep freezes and beachwear to Inuits, as it turns out they definitely won't be needing them either.

Apr 22, 2016 at 9:19 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

The reference to "Sam's blade fly pass her study window" is probably not meant to be a "fly pass", is it? (p2)

Apr 22, 2016 at 9:36 AM | Unregistered Commentersteveta_uk

It's all well covered on Facebook. Well done Josh again.

Scotland against spin

There is even the ridiculous idea of the Scottish Government getting into solar farms.

Apr 22, 2016 at 9:51 AM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Neither the SNP nor the trade body Scottish Renewables would comment on "Subsidy Sam."

What a surprise! All the same it would be a good time to ask candidates in the Scottish Parliamentary elections what their opinions on the issue of subsidies and on countering green propaganda in schools.

Apr 22, 2016 at 9:56 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoy

Children should be left out of this.

If this is not possible, they should be made to wear bumblebee customs at all times.

Apr 22, 2016 at 10:12 AM | Unregistered CommenterAyla

I just must pile on some compliment.
You da man mistah Josh.

(Small critisism: the dead birds are not visible enough, should be in front)

Apr 22, 2016 at 10:17 AM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Silver

What a great counter to the indoctrination of kids which is allowed to go unhindered in our schools. I am reminded of the time my campaign group attempted to put posters up in a school campus, comprising secondary, primary and nursery schools, where huge turbines were proposed adjacent the campus; we were told that the subject was 'political' and our request was declined. Well done, Lyndsey Ward.

Apr 22, 2016 at 10:23 AM | Unregistered CommenterMary Young

'Children should be left out of this.
If this is not possible, they should be made to wear bumblebee customs at all times.'
10:12 AM Ayla


Ayla, would that be 'Customs and Exercise'?

Apr 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM | Unregistered CommenterAvinalarf

Green Blob campaigners love photographs of steam coming out of flues and chimneys. Would they object if campaigners went into school assemblies with powerful electric liquidisers and fed live birds into them with the lid off, for maximum splatter value?

It would really help impressionable children come to terms with the unnecessary benefits of wind power. If the liquidisers were plugged into a reliable electricity supply, the demonstration would even work when the wind wasn't blowing.

Apr 22, 2016 at 10:34 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

The only surviving Highland school turbine is at Scoraig Primary where it is "the primary source of power"

I guess they forgot to including heating? Or maybe they're just liars?

Apr 22, 2016 at 10:54 AM | Unregistered CommenterSean OConnor

Ayla. Misusing the spellchecker again?


Josh a few negative comments (sorry)

whirling bird killing machines usually come in clusters, and one of them at least should be on fire.

Questionable topmost segment - could be misunderstood as supporting the tobacco industry?

Also resembles H.G. Wells' Martian death ray walker - shouldn't scare the little ones.

Apr 22, 2016 at 11:55 AM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

You have to be, some sort of headbanging green loony to want these things anywhere near you, and a few more here...................

The BBC Look North presenter officially opened Hillside Primary School at Newsome, seven months after children walked through the doors for the first time.

The £7.4m school, off Headfield Road, opened to its 320 pupils in November. It is the most environmentally friendly within Kirklees.

Solar panels, a wind turbine, a biomass boiler using compressed wood pellets and a special system to recycle water will all ensure this is an energy efficient school with the greenest of credentials.

It ain't about the kids is it, it never ferkin was, political mini pawns and....... warmunist propaganda on al beeb - always trumps aught else. Though, I think if memory serves - the local education authority dismantled the perfunctory, chocolate teapot...... bird mincer - I think, if not - parents should be aware.

Apr 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan.

Athelstan. If your memory does serve you well, the school could not have been an academy. When academy status is conferred on all, who protects us from such stupidity? Bet some schools get to be sponsored by the Green Blob, then no one will be safe. Perhaps such schools should have air raid shelters against falling turbine blades and sliced up bird parts.

Apr 22, 2016 at 12:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

Bird parts? Is that a new way of feathering windmill aerofoils?

Apr 22, 2016 at 12:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterNCC 1701E

The only surviving Highland school turbine is at Scoraig Primary where it is "the primary source of power"

Which could truthfully mean "we use power from the turbine first (when it's making any) and then fall back on the mains 'leccy when it isn't"

In the words of Tommy Cooper "it's how you tell 'em"

Apr 22, 2016 at 12:58 PM | Unregistered Commentergareth

Alan Kendall, you could have a valid point there.

Parents should have access to information about a school's Green Blob status. How many of the teachers are Green Blob Certified, or just certifiably Green? Number of A/B Grade passes in Green Blob Useless Learning Experiences (Green BlobULEs)?

This sort of information would enable parents to choose whether their child was destined to do something useful for themselves and society, or become a professiinal Blobbite or politician.

Apr 22, 2016 at 1:05 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Althelstan (12.12 pm)

I do not understand your critical comment about the BBC?

School was officially opened by a BBC broadcaster presumably because he was well known. I doubt if the BBC forced itself on the community but instead was allowng one of its employees to perform a public function.

The "offending" green component was only 11% of the entire report and surely this was a legitimate component because it describes something distinctive about the school?

Finally, and most significantly, the report DID NOT COME FROM THE BBC at all, but from a LOCAL PAPER, the Huddlesfield Examiner.

The report was about the OPENING OF A SCHOOL, not its students.

Apr 22, 2016 at 1:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

Re: golf charlie

> Parents should have access to information about a school's Green Blob status.

Aren't schools subject to FOI requests?

Apr 22, 2016 at 1:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterTerryS

"Scoraig Primary One of Scotland's most remote schools, , which sits at the end of a peninsula"
... So perhaps a stronger case for having a turbine than other places
...Didn't find a report for the KWh it generated in reality tho

Apr 22, 2016 at 1:27 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

TerryS. (are you related to Sandy?).

Schools probably not subject to FOI, but school boards probably are. Oh forgot, we're getting rid of those. Academies will not be accountable to anybody except the big mucker in Westminster. Good luck with him (her).

Apr 22, 2016 at 1:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

Wasn’t there a primary school where they did install a wind-thingy, with great enthusiasm from the youngsters, and to much acclaim? Within a few weeks, the number of dead birds lying around was upsetting the children so much that it was stopped. Well, at least there is one school where the children have learned that propaganda does not always match reality. Naturally, while started with great fanfare, the stop was widely unreported.

Apr 22, 2016 at 1:38 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Re: Alan Kendall

I little bit of research (which I should have done at the start) reveals that:

Private Schools: not subject to FOI
State Schools are subject to FOI
Academies are subject to FOI

No relation to Sandy

Apr 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterTerryS

Scoraig Primary looks as if it has no mains electricity, and is probably heated by peat. A small turbine - perhaps 5-6ft in diameter, probably charges batteries which provide electric light. It could probably also charge laptops, but not much more...

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/42937003.jpg

Apr 22, 2016 at 2:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterDodgy Geezer
Apr 22, 2016 at 2:01 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Radical Rodent, there have been a few schools that have demonstrated the efficacy of bird liquidisers in their own playgrounds, and the children, parents and teachers realised that they were lovely to look at when they weren't working, and everyone could feel terribly selfrighteous. Unfortunately, when they were working, those looking at them ended up looking like they had been in a foodfight in an abattoir.

One school (in Dorset?) overlooking the coast, was popular with the Tourist industry for the number of 'protected' seagulls it helped to recycle into food for non flying vermin, which could be legally poisoned. The school had signed a binding contract to site the bird mincer for years, so the school may be paying to guarantee no electricity is produced which is a win/win for subsidy farmers, at maximum cost and negative value to education budgets.

It is time some of these contracts were challenged in court, to establish whether any of the terms and conditions were based on false claims. If nothing else, the scale of incompetence would be available for public scrutiny.

Apr 22, 2016 at 2:12 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Stewgreen, snap! From the article:

"Tony Whitehead, RSPB spokesman, said: "Obviously the RSPB is very concerned about climate change, it is one of the biggest threats that we have to the environment."

Doesn't give a flying fig leaf for birds does he.

Apr 22, 2016 at 2:30 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

It's not all bad. The kids can study birds close up, using the JJAudobon Ornothology System (his paintings were so good, because he had the birds in hand after he SHOT them).

Apr 22, 2016 at 2:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterGamecock

Scoraig Primary looks as if it has no mains electricity, and is probably heated by peat. A small turbine - perhaps 5-6ft in diameter, probably charges batteries which provide electric light. It could probably also charge laptops, but not much more...

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/42937003.jpg

Apr 22, 2016 at 3:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterDodgy Geezer

It is curious, when you look through old records, that there are some that are… well… overlooked. I have already pointed out that satellite records of sea-ice go back further than 1979 (to little response – hey-ho), but we are also being commonly told that: “The temperatures have risen 2.5°C since 1810! Be afraid!” (Okay, that last bit was my own addition, but the implication is certainly there.) However, should you look at the data from 1810… How very odd: the temperatures have only risen 1°C since then! According to Berkeley Earth, from a little after1800 to circa1810, temperatures plummeted 1.5°C; from circa1815 – 1825, they soared back 1.5°C. I wonder how either of those would look on an energy imbalance-extrapolated-to-a-century scale? And how would they compare with more recent such extrapolations?

Apr 22, 2016 at 3:21 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Well done Josh! And Lyndsey Ward. I've done a tuppence worth of promotion here: http://climatelessons.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/stop-indoctrinating-children-with-eco.html

Apr 22, 2016 at 3:35 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

Gold Charlie, why would you deliberately omit the immediately following sentence from Tony Whitehead, RSPB spokesman, eh?

"But of course we want to see wind turbines placed in situations where they are going to have no impact on the environment and on wildlife."

Apr 22, 2016 at 3:37 PM | Unregistered Commentersteveta_uk

RR. Just an idle speculation, but since a Mars mission went thunk because engineers mistook metric and good ol'merican measurement systems, could the temperature discrepancy be partially due to confusion twixt C* and F*? If they can confuse hemispheres, anything's possible.

Probably not, insufficiently nefarious.

Apr 22, 2016 at 3:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

steveta_uk I thought it would be helpful if someone else highlighted the utter hypocrisy of the RSPB! (As a disgusted former RSPB member)

Radical Rodent, I have been enjoying the historical information that you link to! If only the Hockey Team and their cheerleaders would read some of it and stop posting links to science fiction written about history, though I thought vvussell made a valuable contribution towards honesty last night.

Apr 22, 2016 at 4:00 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

The Royal Society for the Protection of Subsidies is now pro-bloodsports,

Does the RSPS Master of the Hunt feed his subsidy hounds on the quarry, or is this just another chase after the odor of sanctity?

Apr 22, 2016 at 4:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterRussell

Alan Kendall, if rocket scientists struggle with minor differences between an inch and a millimetre, climate scientists see no reason to waste time messing about with far and height and calories. Same innit?

Apr 22, 2016 at 4:08 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

vvussell, you obviously have more access to the UK Green Blob as a member of the Hockey Team elite, so perhaps you could ask them and let us mere mortals know?

Apr 22, 2016 at 4:12 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

NEWSFLASH

RSPB unable to find any wind turbine locations that have "no impact on the environment or on wildlife".

Sites on the Moon also reluctantly dismissed by RSPB experts as potentially damaging.

Apr 22, 2016 at 4:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

gareth
That particular village is near Ullapool on the North West coast of Scotland, in that position I'd imagine that for a windmill it has a well above average load factor, perhaps nearly 50%. Those children may have a skewed view on their efectiveness as a result.

An interesting Scoraig related blog here

Apr 22, 2016 at 4:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

Russell.

Quarry products give hounds indigestion and have no nutritional value.

Also have you perhaps used an incorrect word and "odor" should be "ordure"? Makes better sense.

Apr 22, 2016 at 4:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

Seagull hors d'oeuvres?

Apr 22, 2016 at 5:16 PM | Unregistered Commentermichael hart

What a combination - Josh and Lyndsey - bit like Rogers and Hammerstein

Apr 22, 2016 at 5:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterGML

"...and a special system to recycle water."

Why would anybody in the north of England need to recycle water? That's truly a waste of money.

Apr 22, 2016 at 5:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterTim Hammond

I have already pointed out that satellite records of sea-ice go back further than 1979
Apr 22, 2016 at 3:21 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Paul Homewood has reviewed a paper from 2006 that looks at Arctic temperatures of the 1930s. May interest. Comments add context also including mention of Tuna fishing in the North Sea during that period.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/04/20/the-regime-shift-of-the-1920s-and-1930s-in-the-north-atlantic/

Apr 22, 2016 at 6:07 PM | Unregistered CommenterMick J

Actually the BBC frequently broadcast anti-wind programmes ... whenever the synoptic weather chart shows a High or Low sitting above the UK, or am I wrong about that, X MW of wind should only be on the grid when X MW of spinning reserve is available, so the value of X doesn't really matter?

Apr 22, 2016 at 6:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterMikky

A couple of real world wind stories for teachers:

‘Anger as turbine crashes to earth for second time'

Northern Times, 19 December, 2014.

‘A PUBLICLY funded, £37,000 wind turbine sited next to a community hall in north-west Sutherland has crashed to the ground for a second time.

‘The tower of the 15-metre high turbine at remote Rhue Stoer Hall, north of Lochinver, snapped in two last Thursday, sending the gear box housing and blades tumbling to the ground. It is the second such structural failure in two years.

‘The turbine was reported to be “askew” and making a “funny noise” just prior to the crash.

‘Members of the Rhue Stoer Community Association, which runs the hall, were remaining tight lipped about the latest occurrence. But the incident has reignited concerns about siting small-scale wind turbines close to public buildings, particularly schools.

[...]’


'Leominster_school_pulls_the_plug_on_turbine'

Hereford Times, 12 December 2014

‘THE plug on a school’s green dream has been pulled after the maintenance cost of running its wind turbine were greater than the benefit of the electricity generated.

‘Now, a Leominster councillor has slammed the decision to install the turbine, which was turned off within one year of its launch at a cost of more than £150,000.

‘The turbine was installed at Earl Mortimer College with the intention of providing renewable electricity for the school.

‘It cost £156,964 and was paid for by funding under the ‘Building Sustainable School for the Future, One School Pathfinder project’ but was turned off as it was not commercially viable.

‘Councillor Peter McCaull said: “I think it’s terrible.

‘“It’s so easy to spend other people’s money — there is no accountability.

‘“It’s been turned off after one year, all that public money down the drain.”

‘A similar wind turbine, erected at the Aberystwyth offices of the Welsh government in 2009, cost £48,000.

‘And a Freedom of Information request revealed that it produced so little electricity that it would take 400 years to repay.

[...]’


‘Eco-friendly school left out of pocket after ‘unproven’ wind turbine breaks’

The Telegraph, 5 October 2011.

‘An eco-friendly school has been left £55,000 out of pocket after its wind turbine broke – with governors admitting that it was based on “completely unproven technology”.

‘The company that installed the turbine has gone bust leaving the school with a pile of scrap.

‘The Gorran School in Cornwall revealed its 15 metre turbine in 2008 which was designed to provide it with free electricity - and sell any surplus power to the National Grid.

‘The system was seen as a green blueprint for clean, sustainable energy for schools nationwide and received grants from various bodies including the EDF power firm.

‘But soon after being installed the wind turbine became faulty and after a few months seized up - showering the school's playing field with debris.

‘Since then the school has been locked in a battle with suppliers Proven Energy which has now gone into administration leaving the school with little hope of any money being returned - and a pile of scrap in their field.

[...]’

Apr 22, 2016 at 6:43 PM | Unregistered CommenterBillB

Mick J (6:07 PM): ah, but they are “anecdotal”; don’t count (as I found out when discussing the issue with Mr Hunt). As it is the satellite record that the Believers have hung their hats on, this is a proper poke in the eye.

Apr 22, 2016 at 7:20 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Thought you would be intrigued to learn that UEA once had serious plans to site three giant bird killers in its grounds (1) and on farmland just to the south (2). The main proponent of his scheme was Prof. Trevor Davies (he largely responsible for promoting the transformative wood chip burner scheme). I don't think this story ever reached the public. I learned of it because one turbine was to be located quite close to my home and I and my neighbours had to be consulted. Prof Trev really thought we would be in favour. He was dis-abused rather forcefully.

Another unsuccessful renewable scheme that never materialized. A failure for which I was immensely grateful.

Apr 22, 2016 at 7:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

With regard to Bish's absence.
Have you noticed that the "Recent Comments" side bar hasn't changed for days?
Is this usual?

Apr 22, 2016 at 8:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Kendall

"Green Blob campaigners love photographs of steam coming out of flues and chimneys. Would they object if campaigners went into school assemblies with powerful electric liquidisers and fed live birds into them with the lid off, for maximum splatter value?"

They didn't object when the 10:10 "exploding kids" video came out...

Apr 22, 2016 at 8:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterDave Ward

Josh,

Very good indeed.

But you need to start thinking about Slimy Solar . . .

They're threatening to move into Scotland and Ireland.

Apr 22, 2016 at 9:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterCapell

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