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Maths do better - Josh 118

H/t Chuckles who, on the Make haste more slowly post, wrote:

"Does this mean that John Abrahams comments, reported in the Guardian and Daily Climate, about Dr. Spencer constantly having to correct errors and revise work, are in fact correct?

Just not in the way Abrahams originally intended?"


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That should be on the front cover of AR5!

Sep 10, 2011 at 7:47 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

"You would think, if you have a scientific history of being wrong on so many issues, that you would have a little bit of humility before claiming you've overturned scientific evidence yet again. "- Andrew Dessler, Texas A&M University

Do the Team know what the words "think", "wrong", "humility" and "scientific evidence" actually mean?

Lets recount, a rebuttal paper peer-reviewed and accepted for publication by a high profile journal has to be corrected by the rebutted scientists before it can actually be published.

How embarrassing is this dirty little episode for climate science? The Team's credibility has been shredded on this one.

Sep 10, 2011 at 7:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

From the Dessler paper credits

"....I thank A. Evans, J. Fasullo, D. Murphy, K. Trenberth, M Zelinka, and AJ Dessler for useful comments"

I do not know what their useful comments were, but they need to get wider credit and recognition for this outstanding contribution to AGW, and ultimately Josh's cartoon!

Sep 10, 2011 at 8:29 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

Superbly done Josh, we must do this more often...


Sep 10, 2011 at 9:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterChuckles

Cam anyone tell me why Abraham and Gleick were involved in this fracas? At all?

Sep 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM | Unregistered CommenterShub

Shub Sep 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Because they are Abrahams and Gleick

Sep 10, 2011 at 10:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterGreen Sand


Rent-a-mob, bovva boys drafted in to administer kicks to the groin of someone they thought was incapable of defending himself, motivated by personal greed, vanity and political loathing of those they disagree with, all as directed by the High Priests of the Big Green Bogey Cult.

How is that for your starter for ten?

Sep 10, 2011 at 10:39 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

Also posted at WUWT



I did not see Wagner and Trenberth sitting in the corner behind Teacher Spencer’s desk with their dunce hats on. Or better yet, see them sitting on the naughty step per Jonathan Jone’s BH comment.

Great cartoon satire.


Sep 10, 2011 at 11:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Whitman

JW. I am afraid Trenberth got detention for an unpleasant episode of playground bullying. Wagner was sent home with a sick note. Nuff said.

Sep 10, 2011 at 11:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterJosh

Josh, up until now, I thought Mann was the biggest bully in the AGW playground. But Trenberth is the Daddy now

BTW have you seen the film "Scum"?

Sep 10, 2011 at 11:45 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

JW. I am afraid Trenberth got detention for an unpleasant episode of playground bullying. Wagner was sent home with a sick note. Nuff said.

Sep 10, 2011 at 11:32 PM | Josh




Sep 10, 2011 at 11:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Whitman

Everyone seen this?

Misconduct in science

An array of errors

Investigations into a case of alleged scientific misconduct have revealed numerous holes in the oversight of science and scientific publishing

Sep 11, 2011 at 1:31 AM | Unregistered Commenterstan

Thanks for the link

The whole low-down on the Anil Potti saga is at the moment, best covered on - run by Duke University insiders.

Sep 11, 2011 at 2:00 AM | Unregistered CommenterShub

Check out that last graph, I think we'll hear more about this!

Sep 11, 2011 at 2:12 AM | Unregistered CommenterFrosty

Very nice.

I'd like to see a cartoon of Dessler, the ‘Google Science Communication Fellow’, explaining how he came to be trying to pass off correlation coefficients statistically indistinguishable from zero as the basis of support for GCMs.

Perhaps an image of Dessler the Magnificent: Tea Leaves Read (crossed out), Phrenologies Felt (crossed out), Climatological Correlations Discerned

Sep 11, 2011 at 6:48 AM | Unregistered CommenterZT


Cam anyone tell me why Abraham and Gleick were involved in this fracas? At all?

There are a few possibilities that occur to me:

a) It's a variant of the "teamwork sidestep", first articulated by (whoever actually wrote) the Muir Russell report. This fancy footwork (of which we see a variant in the IPCC's "principle-based ... conflict of interest" guidelines) neatly avoids anyone having to take responsibility for that which was written.

b) Travesty Trenberth™ firmly believes that there is "strength in numbers" [cf his 2010 "reconstruction" of Landsea's 2004 withdrawal from participation in AR4]. However, he could not recruit anyone on The Team to actually participate in such a public display of their despicable antics. Consequently, he decided to enlist some keeners from the minor league.

c) Both of the above!

P.S. Josh, thanks for this brilliant (as usual!) satire :-)

Sep 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM | Unregistered Commenterhro001

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