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Love it!! You have been exceptionally polite, too, as Hengist talks a lot of confrontational and circular bollocks.

Feb 6, 2011 at 2:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlexander K


Feb 6, 2011 at 2:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterLewis Deane

'It's just not fair, I'm being parodied as beyond the pail'

Feb 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterPharos

I like it, and may the fine tradition of parody continue :)

Feb 6, 2011 at 2:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterAtomic Hairdryer

Pharos: "Beyond the Pail" loud horselaugh! Bravo.

Feb 6, 2011 at 3:03 PM | Unregistered Commenterj ferguson

After all the nasty, untrue and unpleasant things Hengist has said about Andrew, you are being way to kind to Hengist. If you could have made the horse look more like an ass you would have been more accurate.

Feb 6, 2011 at 3:08 PM | Unregistered Commenterbernie

As it 'appens, in the book I read last week, Stephen Ambrose's account of the D-Day capture of Pegasus Bridge, the airborne troops landed in gliders called Horsas.

In this week's book, David Starkey's history of England's monarchy, an invading anglo-saxon chief is called Horsa. "A-ha!", sez I, "that's where they got the name from!" His fellow chief is called Hengist. I'd long believed that Hengist Pod and his wife Senna were just characters from Carry On films.

Lucky reading, eh? Josh now tosses these names into his cartoons assuming we'll get it. What with Mr, Delingpole's challenging title "Ceci n'est pas un bonhomme de neige", climate scepticism is beginning to resemble a bloomin' pub quiz.

Feb 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterBrent Hargreaves

Well, if we are quoting history books...

Memorable among the Saxon warriors were Hengist and his wife (? or horse), Horsa. Hengist made himself King in the South. Thus Hengist was the first English King and his wife (or horse), Horsa, the first English Queen (or horse).

W C Sellar and R J Yeatman 1066 and All That

Feb 6, 2011 at 3:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterDR


Amusing. Haven't heard of that book for years. My parents had a copy. Perhaps this is why my sense of history is not all that it could be.

Brent Hargreaves

Ah but it keeps us on our toes... and it's free. A little like adult education classes. Besides, Google is your friend...

Feb 6, 2011 at 3:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterBBD

I'm sure this has been covered already, just catching up, but wasn't Hengist the one that did the rather bizarre review of the Bish's book? Without actually having read it?

Feb 6, 2011 at 3:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterGSW

Hengist was coarser than Horsa,
And Horsa was awfully coarse.
Horsa drank whiskey,
Told tales that were risqué,
But Hengist was in a divorce.

Horsa grew coarser and coarser,
But Hengist was coarse all his life.
That reprobate Horsa
Drank tea from a saucer,
But Hengist ate peas with his knife.

Desmond Carter

Feb 6, 2011 at 4:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterDreadnought

Wow, I am truly humbled. Thanks Josh. :-)

Feb 6, 2011 at 4:09 PM | Unregistered Commenterhengist mcstone


Hengist has bought the HSI, but doesn't say if he has read it yet. I look forward to his review.

"Thud! ... Andrew Montford's The Hockey Stick Illusion lands on my doormat. I've bought it because there are a couple of points I want to look up."

Feb 6, 2011 at 4:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterDreadnought have now stooped to my level

Caution you may be deleted.

Feb 6, 2011 at 4:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterAnoneumouse

I hope our American friends picked up on the fact that this is a Pantomime Hors(e)a. In this delightful scene the horse's front end is talking to its back end and its the back end that's speaking the truth. Pantomime, a type of comedic theatre mostly presented at Christmas time in the UK, is often a pejorative term used to describe a situation beyond ridicule.

Very appropriate Josh.

Feb 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterTony Jackson

Josh - a perfect visual summary - thank you.

Feb 6, 2011 at 4:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterZT

I visited hengist's blog. He seems to have a good number of posts saying this or that about Andrew Montford.

Hengist seems to be the shewonk of Steve McIntyre, a 'hewonk' if you will.


I like good polemical attacks, but not if the self-styled polemicist imagines himself to be polemicking in great style by merely using the word 'denialist' and 'denier'.

Feb 6, 2011 at 5:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterShub

Thanks Dreadnought,

I was getting confused with a chap called Alistair McIntosh. So who is Hengist then? I'm guessing that is Hengist's site you linked to - not much to say about it other than with a chip that big on his shoulder, he would probably benefit from a few weeks one to one counseling. :) He's obviously had a life altering experience in the near past. Anyway, Onwards!

Feb 6, 2011 at 5:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterGSW


I like good polemical attacks, but not if the self-styled polemicist imagines himself to be polemicking in great style by merely using the word 'denialist' and 'denier'.

Hear, hear.

Feb 6, 2011 at 5:15 PM | Unregistered CommenterBBD


As I've said elsewhere, Hengist isn't as clever as he thinks he is.

Feb 6, 2011 at 5:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterBBD

My recent reading of David Hume on the subject of Hengest and Horsa suggests that the Britons found themselves incapable of defending themselves from the various marauders of the day following the departure of the Romans who had been doing all the heavy lifting. Not being able to muster the requisite warlikeness themselves, the boss, one Vortigern, hired these two Saxons to come over and show them how it was done. It gets worse from there.

After learning this, I found the use of Horsa to name an object not capable of self motivation a little strange. But then those, too, were difficult times.

Feb 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM | Unregistered Commenterj ferguson

"Our management consultants actually query the necessity to employ a pantomime horse at all."

Feb 6, 2011 at 5:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterDreadnought

Hengist, my pleasure. Glad you liked it.

Feb 6, 2011 at 5:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterJosh

To Josh: A suggestion for a future cartoon:

Tamino has answered Dr Specer's challenge with one of his own:

Show me one peer-reviewed paper that has ruled out leprechauns ... as the cause of most of the recent warming in the thermometer record.

This seems to be crying out for a cartoon. I just wish I had the skill you had to do it ...

Feb 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Bates

@Brent Hargreaves

"Lucky reading, eh? Josh now tosses these names into his cartoons assuming we'll get it."

Actually, I didn't know Hengist the Horsa was a historical figure at all. So I am better informed now.

But I know Hengist the Troll and his performance on the board, recently. And I thought Josh captured it well making him look like a donkey, though I wondered why Hengist wasn't depicted as a troll. Now, I know. I also know that this particular cartoon is an 'in-house' work, intended only for BH.

When Josh 55 came out, many immediately identified the chief character in the cartoon (the one doing the rationing) as a figure out of a Dickens novel. I saw it representing the Western world rationing energy to poor states. The minor figure is holding the Southern Hemisphere in his hands.

It wasn't unlucky reading. Just a different interpretation. Isn't this what art supposed to be?

Feb 8, 2011 at 12:56 AM | Unregistered CommentersHx

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