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Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill S&TC recording
Oct 27, 2010 Climate: Parliament This is the full recording of the hearings this morning.
Update on Oct 27, 2010 by
Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill
Apparently only people within the UK can watch this (although at least one commenter in Spain seems to be OK). This may explain why Steve M can't see it. Can anyone help?
Reader Comments (36)
"The Thatcher Room" ?????????
I'm sorry, but the mere metion of that women's name makes me want to vomit.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/thatcher-gaining-strength-from-nation's-misery-201010223185/
So Acton and Davies admit that they 'sent in' the publications to the Oxburgh inquiry.
At what point do people in the UK resign when they have been found to be dishonest?
Doesn't come up for me.
Its working OK here in the UK
Working OK in Spain.
Another link -
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=6785
The video embedded on this page requires a Microsoft "technology" (loosely speaking) called 'Silverlight'. If you haven't installed Silverlight, the video won't play.
Just installed Silverlight, but I still get the same message telling me to install it. Typical Microsoft shambles.
If, like me, you don't care to install yet another video viewer and you're a UK voter then I suggest you do what I did, complain to
pru@parliament.uk
Nice people, just unaware that lots of viewers don't like MS. It really should be multiformat.
JF
I can see it. It didn't work using the Windows Media Player, but the Silverlight one works fine.
Running Windows 7 Pro, in Ohio, USA.
It's working Ok in Australia
In another post, Bishop Hill reports that the Guardian Eco doesn't think that the witnesses were 'flustered'. Watch Russell's hands when Graham Stringer is questioning him. Also his face when Stringer has finished with him.
FWIW, I'm in Canada and it's working for me - running OSX 10.6 and Safari 5.02 with Silverlight plugin...
Tony
I think you should post that observation at the Graun together with the time on the video.
It didn't work on my linux machine (but there is a work-around). I viewed it on my wife's M$ machine which has silverlight installed to view photo attachments on hotmail. That installation was free. M$ & CRU on the same day! AAAAAArgh
M$ Liverslight will not install with Windows XP SP1 - it requires SP2 or SP3.
I don't plan to endure the hassle of installing a M$ service pack on a stable installation that does all that's otherwise needed just to be able to install Liverslight.
Working fine from Huntsville, Alabama and UAH using Silverlight.
Coming through ok in Normandy (W2000, SP4)
They relied on the US report that the science was sound. Didn't that US report rely on UEA's clean bill of scientific truth, or have I got my facts/memory wrong
Coming through loud and clear in Northern France (W2000, SP4).
Fine for me in Munich, Southern Germany
it was working for me, but now isn't working.
I can see it (if that is of any use). ;)
"So Acton and Davies admit that they 'sent in' the publications to the Oxburgh inquiry.
At what point do people in the UK resign when they have been found to be dishonest?"
Oct 27, 2010 at 1:45 PM | ZT
That infamous email from Davies seeking an RS rubber stamp of approval for the papers looks even worse. And it stank to high heaven before: I now find it impossible to interpret as anything other than deliberate deceit. Can the UEA really not see the damage to its credibility that has been, and continues to be, done by Davies and the others?
"At what point do people in the UK resign when they have been found to be dishonest?"
That's sooooooooooooo 1960's nobody resigns these days for dishonesty!
For those that may be misunderstanding what silverlight is it a bit like Adobe Flash. Its not a media player, but it will play media if that makes sense. Its designed to improve the user experience by taking the load of the web server. And no I don't work for MS Silverlight is also cross platform, in other words it will install into the main browsers on any platform.
Martin A O/T but you should be running sp3 on XP for security reasons if nothing else. MS doesn't allow silverlight on unsupportable platform for a reason. SP2 on XP was a major change to the security model, almost like another OS. In fact if they had their time over I think they work have tweaked the in fact as they did with the move from Vista to Win7.
Why is it that Davies cannot say "Benny Peiser" but can refer to him as the editor of that journal (E&E) and director of GWPF, twice? Is Davies trying to say something?
By the way, those are rhetorical questions.
Why were "relationships" so important when the inquiries were meant to be impartial?
I hope the committee members were able to see through the façade.
Watched the broadcast live in Melbourne Australia, Windowx XP with silverlight already installed. There was a lot of breaking up and purple blobs, but that might be from my ADSL line. Today, the above link works fine. How does one record it for posterity?
The Chair of the Science & Technology group was timid at the start and so were the first few questioners. However Stringer was excellent (first time I have said this), he was strong, did not accept rubbish answers, persued people who did not give straight answers and was the only questioner to make Muir Russell et al start twitching :)
Answers, particularly by Russell were pathetic at times. Sorry if we didnt persue the issue of deleted emails or the fraud accusations by Doug Keenan, must have slipped our minds, well you know how it is.
Russell said they read all the emails???
I thought his report said they didnt read ANY OF THE EMAILS because it would have taken too long. I need to go reread their report.
I am sad to report that the video worked for me. Played like the worst Monty Python skit .... EVER.
Went to the link provided by Marion:
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=6785
Noticed the request to install Microsoft Silverlight but chose instead to run the option of running the video with Microsoft Media Player.
Watching now....
I find it extraordinary that, according to Sir Edward Acton, it is normal in climate science to describe a "simulation" as an "experiment". I imagine it may be possible to conduct an experiment with a number of simulations but to think a simulation in itself is a experiment is peculiar.
Perhaps he will be telling us next that in climate science a "theory" can be regarded as an "axiom" and that since the theory of AGW is therefore an axiom it can no longer be challenged.
Acton is more slippery than a greased eel. Nobody will get him.
On the "Simulation" / "Experiment" topic. I have often reminded young scientists/engineers of the dictum that "The stimulation of simulation might be better than the pleasurement of measurement but it makes you go blind". Seems relevant in this instance.